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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180504103842.rcbpnkjeoavulii6@um.fi.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.6 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.1]); Fri, 04 May 2018 21:52:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.1]); Fri, 04 May 2018 21:52:49 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'10.11.54.6' DOMAIN:'int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com' HELO:'smtp.corp.redhat.com' FROM:'pbonzini@redhat.com' RCPT:'' Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 04/05/2018 12:38, Alexander Shishkin wrote: >>> Or rather a parameter to decide who wins in case both host and guest want >>> to trace the guest. That's arguably better than having different versions of >>> PT in the guest depending on a module parameter setting. >> It's not different versions; it's having PT vs. not having PT at all. I >> don't really see it as a big issue. The nice thing about this series is >> that the interactions between PT code and KVM code are minimal. > Unfortunately, it gets it wrong. Like I just said in another email, if you > switch off host's PT, you need to let them know, which this patchset doesn't > do. And when it does, it would be the same amount of interaction with PT > code as what would be required to get the dynamic guest PT right. Two issues: 1) Is there a fast (10 clock cycles, better if less) way for KVM to know "PT is enabled on the host", or a callback that KVM can register when e.g. RTIT_CTL is written? 2) We'd have to write trace records into the guest. That does not sound that easy. Does it entail parsing the ToPA and all that? Thanks, Paolo