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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180504221556.GX12217@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.7]); Mon, 07 May 2018 10:47:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.7]); Mon, 07 May 2018 10:47:51 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'10.11.54.3' DOMAIN:'int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com' HELO:'smtp.corp.redhat.com' FROM:'pbonzini@redhat.com' RCPT:'' Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 05/05/2018 00:15, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 11:44:09PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> On 04/05/2018 12:45, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >>> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 04:38:23PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote: >>>> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 02:50:12PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >>> >>>>> And you still need the module parameter to decide >>>>> whether the host is _allowed_ to cause incomplete traces in the guest. >>>> >>>> Or rather a parameter to decide who wins in case both host and guest want >>>> to trace the guest. That's arguably better than having different versions of >>>> PT in the guest depending on a module parameter setting. >>> >>> Yes, that sounds like a much better approach. >> >> I don't think so. The possibility that the host would lose tracing data >> just because the guest starts using PT seems hideous to me... > > Well, either way around is a fairly crap situation, the modparam at > least lets the admin pick which it goes. But if you want to always let > the host win, that's fine with me too, less knobs is better. I expect that the default "system-wide" host wins will be used almost always, with "host-guest" being used in case someone actually wants to use PT in guests. I agree that "Host-only, drop guest events" should be removed, since it can be emulated by perf code. Luwei, can you change that? Paolo