Received: by 10.192.165.148 with SMTP id m20csp4767043imm; Tue, 8 May 2018 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZp9iLzsC/dJcicQCqfL2TtbbvD8MWL8xQ3l2RRfZBqeNhjtciuVDSIMfBJ3cLGzaWpfod0X X-Received: by 2002:a63:81c7:: with SMTP id t190-v6mr33664053pgd.293.1525813600291; Tue, 08 May 2018 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1525813600; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=ON09Nx5P1r1wMMwesVfo3D6wHAKVuBc8LOodOkUsZjhe4dF63OY9rN6QBsPPQZDvT3 rYJxt939biTAeY9LUzSxdsKMPXdpiPBuEWVLY36G9SK3xkDZAwXkT0K8tb5ZumbLNW3q mZ7p5A+VXWxMaGpLYMgRmtprRv+60on5Pq0AdC/uEbrOoWxWChXLnCJf3DhWNE/MvKcn ADqWE+2BmG5nhKIwTfpY0n/8/tWjqVdjjMwJg/gxzWAma6sfMrbCvx0C5jHRH8ScNl1D 3WPkA7Xh4XviF5HYN64iHNfVxDlwnhI3/JVizdx2WOA2duQeHb5wTsfZHj0DGBW/1eYQ 2glw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=ptW7r942vVpFK/jymESFdy/s9VPRqEB9E2PAes7yykg=; b=i/KssSX+gzxwuLCZKTnDUObjNz1EUSWbLvnrAcbFdycTDx2jZcRJGxPPn0ZFNPs7qv QNh5JAVwIEwspq/Dg/L21RGRZ93gWJzxNIq7tZ3hNDzbKL32/wbuc7wDE1fI5BUSgEKD ua3WayqRzbK6YJtl6ODxfxY7bmIKWiqx0Da+yq7SAXC3ln11b8K0F8vgJD4PkAgzxcqT 2vEfEnZSD70iJMYLIfMtBTjFvJHr/Yni6waMvwHHsiVHpK9jFKMixaRJzMh+092bXnSW mtYHBKw4RMCfFUQE3UsFdz+SiUfwzQfOf5nHOAnmfoUcE6UkOSi/Og/aQn9HyNEUV3Eg nf/Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h123-v6si14070703pgc.299.2018.05.08.14.06.25; Tue, 08 May 2018 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755874AbeEHVGF (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 8 May 2018 17:06:05 -0400 Received: from lang.hm ([66.167.227.134]:60033 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751579AbeEHVGE (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 May 2018 17:06:04 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 348 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 17:06:04 EDT Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id w48KxIw2028358; Tue, 8 May 2018 13:59:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Sasha Levin cc: Matthew Wilcox , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Tony Lindgren , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "w@1wt.eu" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Ben Hutchings Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches In-Reply-To: <20180508205505.GD8514@sasha-vm> Message-ID: References: <20180502194632.GB18390@sasha-vm> <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503031000.GC29205@thunk.org> <0276fcda-0385-8f22-dbdb-e063f7ed8bbe@roeck-us.net> <20180503224217.GR2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503230905.GA98604@atomide.com> <20180508023439.GA8514@sasha-vm> <20180508034820.GE999@thunk.org> <20180508202912.GC8514@sasha-vm> <20180508205505.GD8514@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 8 May 2018, Sasha Levin wrote: > There's no one, for example, who picked up vanilla v4.16 and plans to > keep using it for a year. Actually, at a prior job I would do almost exactly that. I never intended to go a year without updating, but it would happen if nothing came up that was related to the hardware/features I was running. so 'no one uses the Linus kernel is false.