Received: by 10.192.165.148 with SMTP id m20csp1304420imm; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:39:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpH9UDpM5w8/bZULx6RdKAQyaBGuUTcgkQmXxlIrp9RIyvgyECbzIGVPUOK089GgV+mmTqA X-Received: by 2002:a65:6585:: with SMTP id u5-v6mr1509620pgv.396.1525966771516; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:39:31 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1525966771; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=spe1A9Nn0nXHy62XstmjDxPwu7LuXouU2ACoW4coFBd0qpIUp+dBfd+ZZJA+3bnqfK obaxafmhqjEX56LxpUMbgEmdozOAtlv24BhPkubE6+TyDvZofM3lVDWRhaTQnTOWiVQb ALxWimWENGQnPrvnW6/oO/Q/YmUNOq1wqA4YU0p6gs9nS74HQrjze5j4HsYVJ4tiJR8U ubW5ti04hlyNS9UVDvjxpR41WzJ4ZqNt/LT7Cs/SVZeBfOuG5iBAzz21tS3XHQs51F+x kjtX2tjbNRDIQXyyNSRzwTKjSzyRVN7B/ax/dmvJ94iI8VZgxxjfzzWamF/iTVRKd2if G6Hg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:to :from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=BXrWkFkWeaqhpVzs3giJT2Xz9tjzhgIxkBMqOoBcQsY=; b=d3SXL+p5kEa0R9MEv6gOIuFg+wYZM4Rdxqvoz53zZHQWH+MAuTL/pKEVCLvQflDI4i 4uKPXZCgbkA3II5swz/a49xrsvuWr1AcJyT6I+f72rxiYk/4HMlYCmZPgw/EW7cnvzv6 85wzg6ZgNzfuhF4A0VbuQ3JMrdK3r9/hJRd9aWaQ/pn552lWlv4fgKfQP/KugmddNmhv MKuR0sf7gTNV8F1eRA/TGTdbwaOShapa4o9/mN42lw3XXgR2PNeH0IlIdD/FJBHSJ+kx Yz/Ekq/iN1ro3U9Sl8TENwNTZ0+RXnVFMQ+vf2E69WvVTk5sZSAZl3aFJgynfVEBAeoK PBGQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y185-v6si830863pgd.316.2018.05.10.08.39.16; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966326AbeEJPhD (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 10 May 2018 11:37:03 -0400 Received: from muru.com ([72.249.23.125]:41538 "EHLO muru.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S966093AbeEJPhB (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 May 2018 11:37:01 -0400 Received: from atomide.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muru.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F13A480EA; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:36:58 -0700 From: Tony Lindgren To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Sasha Levin , Greg KH , "w@1wt.eu" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches Message-ID: <20180510153658.GE98604@atomide.com> References: <20180502194632.GB18390@sasha-vm> <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503031000.GC29205@thunk.org> <0276fcda-0385-8f22-dbdb-e063f7ed8bbe@roeck-us.net> <20180503224217.GR2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503230905.GA98604@atomide.com> <20180508023439.GA8514@sasha-vm> <20180508034820.GE999@thunk.org> <20180508144958.GU98604@atomide.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180508144958.GU98604@atomide.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Tony Lindgren [180508 14:52]: > * Theodore Y. Ts'o [180508 03:50]: > > Would I pull down linux-next, and fire up a VM running gce-xfstests? > > Sure. But that's not a real-life use case; that's just running canned > > test cases. And more often than not, linux-next will be broken while > > Linus's -rcX tree is just fine; which is why I do most of my ext4 > > testing using patches based on top of -rcX, not based on top of > > linux-next. > > Ideally we would somehow always end up with an -rc1 that people dare > to use though for the "prosumer" testing :) BTW, the reason why I think we all should test Linux next on regular basis is that it's often "some other people's branches(tm)" that cause the regressions :) Maybe because their own test cases did not show any regressions, or because they were unable to test the patches. Or it's because of some "clean-up" work that's completely untested on some systems. And that's how we end up with regressions getting merged into -rc1. Regards, Tony