Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263935AbTH1Ldu (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:33:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263940AbTH1Ldu (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:33:50 -0400 Received: from [66.155.158.133] ([66.155.158.133]:4224 "EHLO ns.waumbecmill.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263935AbTH1Ldt convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:33:49 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: joe briggs Organization: BMS To: Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: binary kernel drivers re. hpt370 and redhat Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:33:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200308271840.30368.jbriggs@briggsmedia.com> <20030827145755.7e1ce956.shemminger@osdl.org> <1062022619.23531.38.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <1062022619.23531.38.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <200308280833.01136.jbriggs@briggsmedia.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2020 Lines: 47 I believe that companies will eventually see it costs less and the benefits higher to open source their drivers. But that is a conclusion and paradigm that they will have to evolve to themselves, and shoving it down their throats will only lengthen the process. The first step is to support their hardware under the platform (linux), and that is what I am focusing on. Thanks for the technical analysis and suggestions. Joe On Wednesday 27 August 2003 06:17 pm, you wrote: > On Mer, 2003-08-27 at 22:57, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:40:30 -0400 > > > > joe briggs wrote: > > > I have a client who has a raid controller currently supported under > > > windows, and now wants to support linux as a bootable device. > > > Currently, some of their trade secrets are contained in the driver as > > > opposed to the controller > > Standard practice - its not IMHO so much trade secrets as "improving the > barrier to vendor change" 8). Pretty much all of the older PATA > controllers don't actually do hardware raid but bios/driver raid - ie > its the equivalent (or roughly so) of the md layer but locks you into > the vendor. The notable exception here is the 3ware card (there are a > couple of others too - Promise Supertrak100, SX6000) > > We know some of these formats (eg see the hptraid driver in 2.4.2x) > > > The problem is more in the bootloader (LILO or GRUB) would not no how > > to do raid. The /boot partition would have to be on a non-raid partition. > > Same problem if driver is statically linked in the kernel. > > Plus little issues like the GPL 8) -- Joe Briggs Briggs Media Systems 105 Burnsen Ave. Manchester NH 01304 USA TEL 603-232-3115 FAX 603-625-5809 MOBILE 603-493-2386 www.briggsmedia.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/