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Wed, 16 May 2018 09:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: use ac->high_zoneidx for classzone_idx To: Joonsoo Kim , Mel Gorman Cc: Andrew Morton , Michal Hocko , Linux Memory Management List , LKML , Johannes Weiner , Minchan Kim , Ye Xiaolong , Joonsoo Kim References: <1525408246-14768-1-git-send-email-iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> <8b06973c-ef82-17d2-a83d-454368de75e6@suse.cz> <20180504103322.2nbadmnehwdxxaso@suse.de> From: Vlastimil Babka Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=vbabka@suse.cz; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFZdmxYBEADsw/SiUSjB0dM+vSh95UkgcHjzEVBlby/Fg+g42O7LAEkCYXi/vvq31JTB KxRWDHX0R2tgpFDXHnzZcQywawu8eSq0LxzxFNYMvtB7sV1pxYwej2qx9B75qW2plBs+7+YB 87tMFA+u+L4Z5xAzIimfLD5EKC56kJ1CsXlM8S/LHcmdD9Ctkn3trYDNnat0eoAcfPIP2OZ+ 9oe9IF/R28zmh0ifLXyJQQz5ofdj4bPf8ecEW0rhcqHfTD8k4yK0xxt3xW+6Exqp9n9bydiy tcSAw/TahjW6yrA+6JhSBv1v2tIm+itQc073zjSX8OFL51qQVzRFr7H2UQG33lw2QrvHRXqD Ot7ViKam7v0Ho9wEWiQOOZlHItOOXFphWb2yq3nzrKe45oWoSgkxKb97MVsQ+q2SYjJRBBH4 8qKhphADYxkIP6yut/eaj9ImvRUZZRi0DTc8xfnvHGTjKbJzC2xpFcY0DQbZzuwsIZ8OPJCc LM4S7mT25NE5kUTG/TKQCk922vRdGVMoLA7dIQrgXnRXtyT61sg8PG4wcfOnuWf8577aXP1x 6mzw3/jh3F+oSBHb/GcLC7mvWreJifUL2gEdssGfXhGWBo6zLS3qhgtwjay0Jl+kza1lo+Cv BB2T79D4WGdDuVa4eOrQ02TxqGN7G0Biz5ZLRSFzQSQwLn8fbwARAQABzSFWbGFzdGltaWwg QmFia2EgPHZiYWJrYUBzdXNlLmNvbT7CwZcEEwEKAEECGwMFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgIDAQAC HgECF4ACGQEWIQSpQNQ0mSwujpkQPVAiT6fnzIKmZAUCWi/zTwUJBbOLuQAKCRAiT6fnzIKm ZIpED/4jRN/6LKZZIT4R2xoou0nJkBGVA3nfb+mUMgi3uwn/zC+o6jjc3ShmP0LQ0cdeuSt/ t2ytstnuARTFVqZT4/IYzZgBsLM8ODFY5vGfPw00tsZMIfFuVPQX3xs0XgLEHw7/1ZCVyJVr mTzYmV3JruwhMdUvIzwoZ/LXjPiEx1MRdUQYHAWwUfsl8lUZeu2QShL3KubR1eH6lUWN2M7t VcokLsnGg4LTajZzZfq2NqCKEQMY3JkAmOu/ooPTrfHCJYMF/5dpi8YF1CkQF/PVbnYbPUuh dRM0m3NzPtn5DdyfFltJ7fobGR039+zoCo6dFF9fPltwcyLlt1gaItfX5yNbOjX3aJSHY2Vc A5T+XAVC2sCwj0lHvgGDz/dTsMM9Ob/6rRJANlJPRWGYk3WVWnbgW8UejCWtn1FkiY/L/4qJ UsqkId8NkkVdVAenCcHQmOGjRQYTpe6Cf4aQ4HGNDeWEm3H8Uq9vmHhXXcPLkxBLRbGDSHyq vUBVaK+dAwAsXn/5PlGxw1cWtur1ep7RDgG3vVQDhIOpAXAg6HULjcbWpBEFaoH720oyGmO5 kV+yHciYO3nPzz/CZJzP5Ki7Q1zqBb/U6gib2at5Ycvews+vTueYO+rOb9sfD8BFTK386LUK uce7E38owtgo/V2GV4LMWqVOy1xtCB6OAUfnGDU2EM7BTQRWXZsWARAAyS3vr9khnfXSX3zU v2JIH8zP/aIwjAlIeekU7RYeIamGNm2qL1O1ZxQm4LH73YQpfVFpZbBMA6/jo+X38D+6b+7i Ea4f8otSBwHfTuV2mcwmo9OZjcsTsN01lq1i4mxA6fThBLJr/KDzW+kfq6lxN9/mEmhDjGIx cGWXvYY2Aa+QWNcMsIcXAwQWDx4ATrBvVAC5ezsuJwidNYgdMZr/1667W4jdUdxaASwYxT7N 0rjbCfpvdEUbZ66+mGup+46su/ijlRlr1X8+4n4OYWz9AmRGe0pcCl2trZpWcxE3t2T9S0yR uMlCgEIU8edyGVtmhuDJ0PGzinlNYnUikdvJIfNHT0SkMdEeuwAnBArwEl+d35g6RnyQA0im fSTb/R6OiavZZzHm5ywrdFo0ZCcJi5cVM5YwPgh7hWtDVd3Wj644mbV1wXVcU2TyQPwG0D+m BARx9WEHmz2orqLZyGwolYrk/5VLuTv7N/bp9OkIVx5a+YwfNyalZvBbsR2Pu4cLVNaKHR80 4IrZI4cX26hy8Obsnuaex4homJLR2ACl/DhBGyqv4MNMwmkHxihv+q08fzKQEkXrK0UTssnW eUfB0oNmZteVxphgurn2f5OtasseGhbp7DvQnsK3t7JLhzN/qu4jtZ+udqrY41axBAthI6Z6 ShIddANj0Ly4T3u/Q4EAEQEAAcLBZQQYAQoADwUCVl2bFgIbDAUJAeEzgAAKCRAiT6fnzIKm ZLV4EACAu3CiyTMfJt8h85vKp86C/v1/UkcUeKwGyeVgXwdXOJH9U6uF25QCoeXd77qBb+7O Eksos+clgzz83WIP7R9VlfOg6NU5E+OBU1zpXpiUUwfK3n7lPnpfPN3iSVT8Qh55phuis4CZ PqqHbBh8FFh2wfJQzp69eQnkYlxADZ6S2/e6rUtaZQNWHUmNV3dbts1n6fAtWChQw6IOFQv0 OzAWSNAjzk/AhS1a1jEcOD4L1AHtbQty0a6ajhwayl0MQGjD380R48mV24TQgHrb+8qoXF6A K9MC0W1KZaHZlcng1ArxnhKbRrTMInH/B+YaSSomayAPdt9rfnXlhy/FSRMAdAsa6Ui9wG+S 8LyiV/EgMJzsTmQIJlF9plYd+G1QLQi8lP9C+lw6Wn92sJR5sQo719GUwXtozxOy5aVEfBy/ hIYgXNwKMQEymAkiJAHunTmGDL0OrFY37+TvO+8Z3AcqnV04pCDzLkmDgbsBNwsqCoHRtNSh Gx2mu0G1U19yuDlQK92M+d4Dfb43IMuoT2c+zdMmUGeZMPhKgGc3BDBJ2UQyn2VCaxpDPgmx 3x1zA7K5E/ZIqD5Oo71qTRRonRZ74w0JLDzgDSK7d9lLmtOobstclGT4hChSTblDuMGLFy8J dfyae8NugjBzvIomGBWOsmMGmCeB6tqPObIqLio3T8LBfAQYAQoAJgIbDBYhBKlA1DSZLC6O mRA9UCJPp+fMgqZkBQJaL/NjBQkFs4vNAAoJECJPp+fMgqZk50AQALKEAzCj6kLU6KH7dUZY 16M74NCtpaMDO5/4Shwu+oS8H//b29GHtZVVGudfwBNmuIRSSxdpJkLsmqoLLEQTCzs2szH1 r5+uOiZTuKbgx2HJNaCqoHuotPSOdoVsKg27UxbkJraqSNyzgex0kKNO8HQltdvF20MXvPFu IKc6/Y/NTWQqaamXQBZA6HoSQKfuJmM0zQy3SWdcuz79K2Q4ftR2VNuu8UYB0bfTD7LCTguP PpYC0ePRFmYuiMP5T8DA9NKYiN+71RtcAQTJM8WTidJQ3gaBG1s3kiyqBoqQvkLFExUOBTDi /qukcTh/deKpfaUSIrX+JbrlFIFcwQ0Ql3bAE24hu1nRkFiBSPcoDdDS7Iu3MOwZik3SL6ZH qGo/KlmKiqTyCAs0WgOHnzXeX18/sS048NuOCwqfjn5cbDdbThpX+vRoWBV/rrYMFPgHCigK Ertp0r/zjPaqFHtdxvChwmbTvu44ddRvcCR/3v1zmeUAtxw6guSlvmVDzLwr35czpGrbcydq FPbL9fuTVKAXvkmKzuY0ye5tmJAsyYqgV5l+jaGt6oFEGFj5XZQvO6ic5lmjTHz9b6lUg8at uInmlw5eLxByeMA81R3sJvNbtGfCcqQfVkJAn2S4RYpDtAKI7QM+ydrdH3STBRaC1IuD0YWr A3XDrKOXTZil3g8D Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 11:35:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 05/08/2018 03:00 AM, Joonsoo Kim wrote: >> classzone predates my involvement with Linux but I would be less concerneed >> about what the original intent was and instead ensure that classzone index >> is consistent, sane and potentially renamed while preserving the intent of >> "reserve pages in lower zones when an allocation request can use higher >> zones". While historically the critical intent was to preserve Normal and >> to a lesser extent DMA on 32-bit systems, there still should be some care >> of DMA32 so we should not lose that. > > Agreed! > >> With the patch, the allocator looks like it would be fine as just >> reservations change. I think it's unlikely that CMA usage will result >> in lowmem starvation. Compaction becomes a bit weird as classzone index >> has no special meaning versis highmem and I think it'll be very easy to >> forget. I don't understand this point, what do you mean about highmem here? I've checked and compaction seems to use classzone_idx 1) to pass it to watermark checks as part of compaction suitability checks, i.e. the usual lowmem protection, and 2) to limit compaction of higher zones in kcompactd if the direct compactor can't use them anyway - seems this part has currently the same zone imbalance problem as reclaim. >> Similarly, vmscan can reclaim pages from remote nodes and zones >> that are higher than the original request. That is not likely to be a >> problem but it's a change in behaviour and easy to miss. >> >> Fundamentally, I find it extremely weird we now have two variables that are >> essentially the same thing. They should be collapsed into one variable, >> renamed and documented on what the index means for page allocator, >> compaction, vmscan and the special casing around CMA. > > Agreed! > I will update this patch to reflect your comment. If someone have an idea > on renaming this variable, please let me know. Pehaps max_zone_idx? Seems a bit more clear than "high_zoneidx". And I have no idea what was actually meant by "class". > Thanks. >