Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264891AbTH3PDY (ORCPT ); Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:03:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264830AbTH3PDY (ORCPT ); Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:03:24 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:44980 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264891AbTH3PDO (ORCPT ); Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:03:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:03:11 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Message-ID: <20030830150311.GB23789@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030830012949.GA23789@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030830012949.GA23789@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1681 Lines: 37 On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 06:29:49PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > We've avoiding turning on that feature in the past because we share the > T1 line that bkbits.net lives on with all the rest of bitmover and we are > partialy a distributed company. We do VOIP phones and when you guys clone > a repo our phones don't work - that makes us look bad during a sales call. Many people have sent me mail saying that we should be using traffic shaping to fix this problem. We are using it and we can't seem to make it work. Our theory is that we have a network like ----- [ ISP ] ====== internet ======== [ ISP ] ---- wherein "-" means our skinny T1 or DSL and "=" means some fat internet connection on the backbone. We can shape all we want on our ends but if the internet is blasting us then our skinny pipe gets full and our shaping doesn't work. We really need to have the ISP do the shaping so they can squelch the traffic before it gets to our pipe. If there is someone out there who (a) is running VOIP over the public net to a pile of different end points (T1 on both ends tends to work, T1 to DSL or cable modem tends to get harder) and (b) has figured out traffic shaping that works I'd love to know about it. But just saying QoS/wondershaper doesn't help much (though the thought is appreciated), we've tried that already. Thanks. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/