Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262381AbTHaQd2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:33:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262420AbTHaQd2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:33:28 -0400 Received: from ppp-217-133-42-200.cust-adsl.tiscali.it ([217.133.42.200]:39891 "EHLO dualathlon.random") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262381AbTHaQd1 (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:33:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:33:50 +0200 From: Andrea Arcangeli To: Larry McVoy , Alan Cox , Larry McVoy , Pascal Schmidt , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Message-ID: <20030831163350.GY24409@dualathlon.random> References: <20030830230701.GA25845@work.bitmover.com> <20030831013928.GN24409@dualathlon.random> <20030831025659.GA18767@work.bitmover.com> <1062335711.31351.44.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030831144505.GS24409@dualathlon.random> <1062343891.10323.12.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030831154450.GV24409@dualathlon.random> <20030831162243.GC18767@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030831162243.GC18767@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key: 1024D/68B9CB43 13D9 8355 295F 4823 7C49 C012 DFA1 686E 68B9 CB43 X-PGP-Key: 1024R/CB4660B9 CC A0 71 81 F4 A0 63 AC C0 4B 81 1D 8C 15 C8 E5 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1096 Lines: 25 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 09:22:43AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 05:44:50PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > It doesn't work when you dont control incoming. As a simple extreme > > > example if I pingflood you from a fast site then no amount of shaping > > > your end of the link will help, it has to be shaped at the ISP end. > > > > sure, that's why I said it won't work with synflood. > > Someone syncs w/ bkbits every 19 seconds 24x7. We also run our web server 1 syn every 19 seconds is nothing. > You guys who are saying it can work are thinking (a) one connection of > long duration (think about all the web hits on bkbits.net, those are all it doesn't need to be long duration, just longer than a syn or a ping. If it goes in established for a few packets is should be enough to throttle it just fine. Andrea - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/