Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263058AbTHaXHl (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:07:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263060AbTHaXHl (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:07:41 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:24015 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263058AbTHaXHj (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:07:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:07:28 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: Alan Cox , Larry McVoy , Pascal Schmidt , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Message-ID: <20030831230728.GA4918@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Andrea Arcangeli , Alan Cox , Larry McVoy , Pascal Schmidt , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <1062343891.10323.12.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030831154450.GV24409@dualathlon.random> <20030831162243.GC18767@work.bitmover.com> <20030831163350.GY24409@dualathlon.random> <20030831164802.GA12752@work.bitmover.com> <20030831170633.GA24409@dualathlon.random> <20030831211855.GB12752@work.bitmover.com> <20030831224938.GC24409@dualathlon.random> <1062370358.12058.8.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030831230219.GD24409@dualathlon.random> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030831230219.GD24409@dualathlon.random> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1133 Lines: 23 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 01:02:19AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:52:39PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > How about because any undergraduate can do the mathematical proof its > > not possible. Unless he controls the ISP end of the link random bursts > > of traffic, pingfloods, anything not respecting requests to slow down > > will lose voice traffic. > > they are legitimate tcp connections, not udp or icmp. I'm not saying you > can control pingfloods or udp floods or syn floods. I'll try this one more time and then I'm giving up because as far as I can tell you haven't tried this with a busy server, I think you said you did shaping on your home machine or something. Hardly the same thing. How about a series of tiny HTTP requests? All 1.0, no connection reuse. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/