Received: by 2002:ac0:a594:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m20-v6csp1092142imm; Wed, 23 May 2018 10:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrrYoQ2d3lS9yMrxggNP9a68ThrgIV4I4mjG6XMPprPGKxoQ4g8UW4L2l3wgqxts4Pb6LR1 X-Received: by 2002:a62:91b:: with SMTP id e27-v6mr3692872pfd.93.1527095277985; Wed, 23 May 2018 10:07:57 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1527095277; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=iD5mBmTD/6dtmnEKZ5o6+U5gSrG1z8XD7gWoFvY2/wxcvIbCXhlZV40wvSGEeQg7Wo tfliLnmJznFp528RRMqRSdvZxzOfTCe4dD+SiyDs4oML9d3jHxGb2KTaUK8Yb6dRASDm LzIUKYWcLusDtNo7kGfik/1LdUZR+T/526pGd33iofE+axi1+C5Ven2TUT7+0V36O6uk rLyIVw5812WlZ2+e01GtwoSHpf5eqiY1/0RaTvb4e2c0en/YHUQFAabSxuid5dLlfNq8 P19pjzKi5JCc53VzSV5aMG8KcXZUnswf+oEIQHULQhcrcVghW37KEnyXjt0dS7LOpwqC ymUQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=wG9x0cz+GM7nILKF20Awwvlu7dide9KZ71iCMnEzwn8=; b=nPw4YzO0uLDoV5iaR4GhOMDjO2UtclnsiybvgK69bx5OeHhU8Rs14xxBZcwdW9DDbZ Gfyawq9m/P+PtmpxUH0C0s30RNMl2zPvEHodtvrlHYoi096uKoqyLFd0KF6w39W6eg2T mzlLfaZDo+wj4SRnly9V6nOCM4+ZjluD1oYVtNFSCygUtWn6tEwJZschnXe+b4OLqFSK CaqII3UQptEvGXc9KctZ844QNYmggpkyRxj4FbjWeBlXv094zw18/PsPFAqANIpqnon+ zktI5MqkM9iHUAiE/VmVrulS8dTd3FFIzHTVbJiorOugNny4MwoTp8anbyf0wdS6qm+I rgpg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z9-v6si19341859plo.263.2018.05.23.10.07.36; Wed, 23 May 2018 10:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933767AbeEWRHP (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 23 May 2018 13:07:15 -0400 Received: from freki.datenkhaos.de ([81.7.17.101]:39176 "EHLO freki.datenkhaos.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932649AbeEWRHO (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 May 2018 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freki.datenkhaos.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DFD921F99; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from freki.datenkhaos.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (freki.datenkhaos.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m7A8nnGzKnU7; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from probook (x4db16112.dyn.telefonica.de [77.177.97.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by freki.datenkhaos.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 19:07:07 +0200 From: Johannes Hirte To: Pavel Machek Cc: Christian =?utf-8?Q?Kr=C3=BCger?= , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Suggestion: =?utf-8?B?4oCec3BlY3RyZV92?= =?utf-8?B?Mj1vZmbigJwgYW5kIOKAnm5vcHRp?= =?utf-8?B?4oCc?= per default in "Intel Atom N270" case? Message-ID: <20180523170706.GA21118@probook> References: <72a7122d-0020-f307-a76d-bb80a2c19842@web.de> <20180523105302.GE15312@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180523105302.GE15312@amd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2018 Mai 23, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Sat 2018-05-19 21:53:02, Christian Krüger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Since the old "in-order-execution" Intel CPUs like the Intel Atom N270 > > (known for being installed in many Netbooks and Nettops) are not sensitive > > for "Meltdown" & "Spectre" , wouldn't it be a good idea to exclude these > > anyway "weak" CPUs from the costly patches by default? > > > > Browsing the web, I can "feel the difference" if the matching kernel options > > are applied on such a device. > > Can you also measure the difference? Placebo effect is hard to avoid. > > But yes, we do not need to do workarounds on non-buggy machines... > > Pavel On my Atom N270 there doesn't seem to be any workaround active with kernel 4.14.42: localhost ~ # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* Not affected Not affected Not affected Christian, did you verified the mitigations are active on your system? What kernels are affected? -- Regards, Johannes