Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263627AbTIBI34 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Sep 2003 04:29:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263682AbTIBI34 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Sep 2003 04:29:56 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]:41933 "EHLO main.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263627AbTIBI3y (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Sep 2003 04:29:54 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Jan Rychter Subject: Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6 Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 03:29:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20030901211220.GD342@elf.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lzIwgPZuiAOCznDwZB5B+LP/Ft4= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2339 Lines: 51 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "Patrick" =3D=3D Patrick Mochel : [...] Patrick> Power management has not worked for a majority of users for a Patrick> long time. It's in dire need of someone with motivation, Patrick> direction, and the time to make it work properly, and get it Patrick> on par with some of our contemporary OSes. I'm trying to be Patrick> that person, and actually fix things in the long run, rather Patrick> than encouraging people to "fix it themselves". [...] I'd like to throw in some comments from a user's point of view. I've been using software suspend for quite a long time now. I was happy when Pavel made it work back when he first got to it. I was a bit less happy when it turned out that it doesn't really work all that well. Then I was happy again when Nigel Cunningham put in a *lot* of hard work (which he still does now) and made the 2.4 swsusp code nice and stable. The result of Nigel's work is code that allows me 2-3 weeks of uptime on my laptop with several suspends a day. In the meantime, the 2.5 version hasn't really gone anywhere interesting. It did not work for me when it was first merged, and it did not work in -test3 either. People reporting problems were mostly told to fix things themselves (which shows a blatant disregard for testers' time, a common pitfall for people that write code). Being a maintainer IMHO means fixing things, not standing in an ivory "maintainer" tower and shouting at people. Therefore, I couldn't agree more with Patrick. I am very happy to see that someone actually cares about the code, tries to clean it up and fix things. I hope things _will_ get fixed over time. And I certainly think that Patrick's cleanups and refactoring are better than the constantly broken state that software suspend was in. =2D-J. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/VHEhLth4/7/QhDoRAkOvAKCDKDrrt96mig9S+DLo1Wg7EAIMUwCffPGx GYfpmVQ3Ifn7UhN5Bf/AGeg= =legi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/