Received: by 2002:ac0:a594:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m20-v6csp3520991imm; Fri, 25 May 2018 07:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqt6eKgbdggb/BWsT0GMN6zUO2b4AAf/J4oQMQh1fADbbuv8N9UpacD9s7Mc/34dKc43/pc X-Received: by 2002:a63:a557:: with SMTP id r23-v6mr2172387pgu.336.1527257312473; Fri, 25 May 2018 07:08:32 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1527257312; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=AiMHVtoSthmA0EgXnGFFwAcCyZ9ZlYOt+ZniHDyxqTnUQZQnj4FdXKy0WBK6etq85i UiwUQLY6PvLKHNpje9bOwsbdUhVDNZEXMNWSefJuQ08glBqTo7lUSmsHs4sWnsVE6EVx n1tboM2g1LkwnYG2IE3O560mYtyAnvut4a9x1eXi3wQSHOLHHfzFw2ShkxA2Z7PggDqo Qm5rVNMCotVhcyzrl27ao4BL0a5vfqJI7D9zi86BDObSH8RG4F2G/2wq2azTEuZy/Mz/ kWU2Rj/YqlE9EfS5Z8IMCzoPlDOtKLxqetrv+N7Ua49ac7JJB+SuGB3pX9OUWNBcsQnK 0R8w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=c/nz0sDSOEugWDfdmm5Rhdg3knVS6+eUx2bUm/8ijD4=; b=Z+mJjzK2m9qIUnW57Pl7UXbvJ6fjPe8aPkFyDlysjJ4hAYW6JwMPJsVrvXCuruSfgh p0yo5KxEE4WctsZ17hF/Qk9v2lR74vc1tYKH01WeIskIVSNA/xRKz9gxzoqkEaQXb2/O vBeXaZehCQPG91KAeXKx6d/LKz76ueBlV8l+bkZ/6VGhomucNTobw1OCT4ZRCcsNWzAI QaZCBiuweTwhCML5XP1jhoRtPFWHje3uG3XGi+EHsrrRdAzjwP28VA54FAQWMiZE7vgr xF40f0iRVnTXESfRLsYc5AWLb4zaW+g/8rLVEZVkt8Qi+Y3eVFG3VK22aG+5cs4P1Avl fS8A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k18-v6si23852031pfe.13.2018.05.25.07.08.17; Fri, 25 May 2018 07:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S936154AbeEYOGd (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 25 May 2018 10:06:33 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:37151 "EHLO newverein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935737AbeEYOGc (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2018 10:06:32 -0400 Received: by newverein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id E5AF768E40; Fri, 25 May 2018 16:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 16:12:11 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Mike Snitzer Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Johannes Thumshirn , Keith Busch , Sagi Grimberg , Hannes Reinecke , Laurence Oberman , Ewan Milne , James Smart , Linux Kernel Mailinglist , Linux NVMe Mailinglist , "Martin K . Petersen" , Martin George , John Meneghini Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing Message-ID: <20180525141211.GA25971@lst.de> References: <20180525125322.15398-1-jthumshirn@suse.de> <20180525130535.GA24239@lst.de> <20180525135813.GB9591@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180525135813.GB9591@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 09:58:13AM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote: > We all basically knew this would be your position. But at this year's > LSF we pretty quickly reached consensus that we do in fact need this. > Except for yourself, Sagi and afaik Martin George: all on the cc were in > attendance and agreed. And I very mich disagree, and you'd bette come up with a good reason to overide me as the author and maintainer of this code. > And since then we've exchanged mails to refine and test Johannes' > implementation. Since when was acting behind the scenes a good argument for anything? > Hopefully this clarifies things, thanks. It doesn't. The whole point we have native multipath in nvme is because dm-multipath is the wrong architecture (and has been, long predating you, nothing personal). And I don't want to be stuck additional decades with this in nvme. We allowed a global opt-in to ease the three people in the world with existing setups to keep using that, but I also said I won't go any step further. And I stand to that.