Received: by 2002:ac0:a594:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m20-v6csp3538984imm; Fri, 25 May 2018 07:25:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZoQ1WhUo6vqsulbdD70SE+ANNThOOi+IlTgJGBIUGVjMkDUc0WnGUZmr09pffLVRoc8itvU X-Received: by 2002:a62:f24a:: with SMTP id y10-v6mr2821467pfl.75.1527258345450; Fri, 25 May 2018 07:25:45 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1527258345; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=ua1YSyKuo57B02xZGS2EoUGw3NuKceCTQAcDaaBb9qBTfAh87AWb50w5IZ2fB8YpJM Dxxc2Pnr9fJZ19areafIhDmzuaAcDB+yyTS+c+UnJckosCAXpPqvVNMFO5MmgkJ0u6x1 p4O6T3sWsoAbyRlM7c46ThLf0pu0wpN1xzHJUOd4kaXzvoHWLOo3ltyIT3mEcNQ+7huY iqHMbib7OYsIIhXd222HWb/O6c+KeNo6DT5AvnvejM/U1dvUIj4zSIvc9SoPIgFGblnq 2TivRis371LEewtD8dgautRcH3ONTKudrvDPI2RRREk7ajTtitBm1OkADcpKWqNSexr+ bzxQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=ntpTaCTkflfXHxXFd7z4v51a5o5eJGgBU6C9Jv19ijk=; b=AhfP6izPTEi6CnKUiJQ1cFpUvMTridfedADgDxjS7ipGqDbPsvi2jznRoKH5HfChZ7 v0uRjLkgOw1i4jSy03/aPI3QEq+SaD8izOVUOSpPUGRw3b+/wZeK/Dg1hxVhnSR2toT4 9Zb/5qrEegD8kkDK3qo2l9RXGt8mxNFBiv0k5LppIHJgvKy7E2lrhh1xuQlgqzhhaHki b6jaVNWizUpO7LxJIEubzW1fRpcMjo3/EWlL3rQ5aegET1WgR5pqRiMStT7HN3ievl6E AIC2Cc3vNmTgrmrdeJLLSLL6/1HIZVoJ7RN5s9aRJAgiYx1jF1t66BJ5Qbb0+IbCnrRs ftYA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z26-v6si23779760pfd.26.2018.05.25.07.25.30; Fri, 25 May 2018 07:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S936202AbeEYOZU (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 25 May 2018 10:25:20 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:37246 "EHLO newverein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935949AbeEYOZS (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2018 10:25:18 -0400 Received: by newverein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id BDF6168E40; Fri, 25 May 2018 16:30:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 16:30:58 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Johannes Thumshirn Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Keith Busch , Sagi Grimberg , Hannes Reinecke , Mike Snitzer , Laurence Oberman , Ewan Milne , James Smart , Linux Kernel Mailinglist , Linux NVMe Mailinglist , "Martin K . Petersen" , Martin George , John Meneghini Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing Message-ID: <20180525143058.GA26391@lst.de> References: <20180525125322.15398-1-jthumshirn@suse.de> <20180525130535.GA24239@lst.de> <20180525142217.zedv7hz6ov6s45qk@linux-x5ow.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180525142217.zedv7hz6ov6s45qk@linux-x5ow.site> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 04:22:17PM +0200, Johannes Thumshirn wrote: > But Mike's and Hannes' arguments where reasonable as well, we do not > know if there are any existing setups we might break leading to > support calls, which we have to deal with. Personally I don't believe > there are lot's of existing nvme multipath setups out there, but who > am I to judge. I don't think existing setups are very likely, but they absolutely are a valid reason to support the legacy mode. That is why we support the legacy mode using the multipath module option. Once you move to a per-subsystem switch you don't support legacy setups, you create a maze of new setups that we need to keep compatibility support for forever. > So can we find a middle ground to this? Or we'll have the > all-or-nothing situation we have in scsi-mq now again. How about > tieing the switch to a config option which is off per default? The middle ground is the module option. It provides 100% backwards compatibility if used, but more importantly doesn't create hairy runtime ABIs that we will have to support forever.