Received: by 2002:ac0:a5b6:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m51-v6csp2482676imm; Mon, 28 May 2018 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZp+AqjJfppUI+IfqebkVvy1IOVdiSEmVtszAbOE7wRmuwXd6l2L9XtQh3ruo02kB6ti1o/g X-Received: by 2002:a63:b54b:: with SMTP id u11-v6mr11034783pgo.365.1527523020315; Mon, 28 May 2018 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1527523020; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=dyUJRB3c0EYX4Nw05Ui/rvKVyQbpmUhXnBO1v6WWFO2ojCyag6OsG0Jh/e2ZjzXojd gsTDqeOGgT5EzYdx/6pgiiIFZ1inEQlvOtUZg4dZ16U93ILzbJqnNCFzDJlkrmw5l97F 7bQBemaVv4MSCMw5DO/JuQ2zWcGdRrf+n9etD0rEnxv2uYFjc7Wrggpq/8GTmp+tFa+4 zuB+D+G5iHCrE/d6iHq+ynMBfOKC4r6kgmpSoR/Q8SJbAn4eitnyJ67Y7W+P4Cqv4r9w xT02o6KwIpWyFtfyrT2+rmFOGaC2e8+AnM711uRWFc+HXqKM2eLxc2F0BkYbF3q08roH fYWg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=WtuZXfXEJgnkQ7iKAKUhFbTYQXqFLHcJUfele/LeLl4=; b=tuD9XX2/GWOiS8O/FjcTvJ9eNoj2A8nGHc8Kz773AzC5sYlnx6eFw4VTYgrqoroXgX JntvTn35Fug6+uexJi/MqEDbTN0VsMsLR5Ad3aZ0fHo1rfHt524ivNVdiUMRd7hJPQBA +Uad4kyowXTltdmb8WXWPYEB//CBeGKYTUub0oF086HKYQaVzmvMAqlBEGFNAkRDcU+K efK+RSTSgQzfdUBIfOd1DW+uj5qJkev2yC3jMQaBKh2h8KzTa/avnuCxtx0NeYT78Wlq obRwd4Y/GQc9fQrrdOcdYqEsQUp4IUpROZC0jzLe8xq5OLjUR0GyWMyaR2Nh4tot5HW/ 4aJQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l13-v6si14079078pls.45.2018.05.28.08.56.45; Mon, 28 May 2018 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S939810AbeE1P4V (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 28 May 2018 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:44260 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1425245AbeE1PyW (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 May 2018 11:54:22 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (charybdis-ext-too.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A14AC94; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 11:11:10 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Shakeel Butt Cc: Vladimir Davydov , Andrew Morton , Greg Thelen , Johannes Weiner , Linux MM , Cgroups , LKML Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: force charge kmem counter too Message-ID: <20180528091110.GG1517@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20180525185501.82098-1-shakeelb@google.com> <20180526185144.xvh7ejlyelzvqwdb@esperanza> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat 26-05-18 15:37:05, Shakeel Butt wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Vladimir Davydov > wrote: > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:55:01AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote: > >> Based on several conditions the kernel can decide to force charge an > >> allocation for a memcg i.e. overcharge memcg->memory and memcg->memsw > >> counters. Do the same for memcg->kmem counter too. In cgroup-v1, this > >> bug can cause a __GFP_NOFAIL kmem allocation fail if an explicit limit > >> on kmem counter is set and reached. > > > > memory.kmem.limit is broken and unlikely to ever be fixed as this knob > > was deprecated in cgroup-v2. The fact that hitting the limit doesn't > > trigger reclaim can result in unexpected behavior from user's pov, like > > getting ENOMEM while listing a directory. Bypassing the limit for NOFAIL > > allocations isn't going to fix those problem. > > I understand that fixing NOFAIL will not fix all other issues but it > still is better than current situation. IMHO we should keep fixing > kmem bit by bit. > > One crazy idea is to just break it completely by force charging all the time. What is the limit good for then? Accounting? -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs