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McKenney" , Marc Zyngier , Kai-Heng Feng , Thymo van Beers , Frederic Weisbecker , Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , David Rientjes , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Keith Busch , Dongdong Liu , Frederick Lawler , Oza Pawandeep , Gabriele Paoloni , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , open list , linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option In-Reply-To: <20180530074822.GB30177@kroah.com> References: <1527650389-31575-1-git-send-email-okaya@codeaurora.org> <20180530043103.GA19734@kroah.com> <6c317ed8-cca3-8862-5f3b-12cf14e4d53b@codeaurora.org> <20180530073735.GA28793@infradead.org> <6dfe2db8f974d94c9867f30ec83d9333@codeaurora.org> <20180530074822.GB30177@kroah.com> Message-ID: <577f01ada5e7f08c79a28d41020fb019@codeaurora.org> X-Sender: okaya@codeaurora.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.5 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2018-05-30 00:48, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:44:29AM -0700, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote: >> On 2018-05-30 00:37, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:41:33PM -0700, Sinan Kaya wrote: >> > > Bjorn and I discussed the need for such a "safe" mode feature when you >> > > want to bring up PCI for a platform. You want to turn off everything >> > > as >> > > a starter and just stick to bare minimum. >> > >> > Can we please make it a config option the instead of adding code >> > to every kernel? Also maybe the bringup should be in the name >> > to make this more clear? >> >> One other requirement was to have a runtime option rather than compile >> time >> option. >> >> When someone reported a problem, we wanted to be able to say "use this >> option and see if system boots" without doing any bisects or >> recompilation. >> >> This would be the first step in troubleshooting a system to see if >> fundamental features are working. > > That makes sense, people can not rebuild their kernels for the most > part. Putting it behind a config option would not make sense as it > would always have to be enabled. > Here is where the discussion took place. Last 5-10 messages should help. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196197 >> I don't mind changing the name Bjorn mentioned safe option. I made it >> safemode. I am looking at Bjorn for suggestions at this moment. > > "minimal"? "basic"? "crippled"? > "my_hardware_is_so_borked_it_needs_this_option"? :) > > Naming is hard... > > greg k-h