Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264502AbTIDBtW (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:49:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264504AbTIDBtW (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:49:22 -0400 Received: from [209.195.52.120] ([209.195.52.120]:55519 "HELO warden2.diginsite.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S264502AbTIDBtN (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:49:13 -0400 From: David Lang To: William Lee Irwin III Cc: Larry McVoy , "Martin J. Bligh" , Alan Cox , "Brown, Len" , Giuliano Pochini , Larry McVoy , Linux Kernel Mailing List Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Scaling noise In-Reply-To: <20030904013253.GB4306@holomorphy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2142 Lines: 47 On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, William Lee Irwin III wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:06:53PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > Here's a thought. Maybe the next kernel summit needs to have a CC cluster > > BOF or whatever. I'd be happy to show up, describe what it is that I see > > and have you all try and poke holes in it. If the net result was that you > > walked away with the same picture in your head that I have that would be > > cool. Heck, I'll sponser it and buy beer and food if you like. > > It'd be nice if there were a prototype or something around to at least > get a feel for whether it's worthwhile and how it behaves. > > Most of the individual mechanisms have other uses ranging from playing > the good citizen under a hypervisor to just plain old filesharing, so > it should be vaguely possible to get a couple kernels talking and > farting around without much more than 1-2 P-Y's for bootstrapping bits > and some unspecified amount of pain for missing pieces of the above. > > Unfortunately, this means > (a) the box needs a hypervisor (or equivalent in native nomenclature) how much of this need could be met with a native linux master and kernels running user-mode kernels? (your resource sharing would obviously not be that clean, but you could develop the tools to work across the kernel images this way) David Lang > (b) substantial outlay of kernel hacking time (who's doing this?) > > I'm vaguely attached to the idea of there being _something_ to assess, > otherwise it's difficult to ground the discussions in evidence, though > worse comes to worse, we can break down to plotting and scheming again. > > > -- wli > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/