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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u13-v6si35710274plq.161.2018.05.31.06.50.30; Thu, 31 May 2018 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755308AbeEaNt5 (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 31 May 2018 09:49:57 -0400 Received: from szxga05-in.huawei.com ([45.249.212.191]:8240 "EHLO huawei.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755085AbeEaNtz (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 May 2018 09:49:55 -0400 Received: from DGGEMS407-HUB.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.30.72.59]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id AB7C5DAA01CC7; Thu, 31 May 2018 21:49:41 +0800 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (10.177.223.23) by DGGEMS407-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.207) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Thu, 31 May 2018 21:49:36 +0800 Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] add non-strict mode support for arm-smmu-v3 To: Robin Murphy , Zhen Lei , Will Deacon , "Matthias Brugger" , Rob Clark , "Joerg Roedel" , linux-mediatek , linux-arm-msm , linux-arm-kernel , iommu , linux-kernel CC: Libin , Guozhu Li , Xinwei Hu References: <1527752569-18020-1-git-send-email-thunder.leizhen@huawei.com> From: Hanjun Guo Message-ID: <96cc25b9-b21f-6067-384d-f52e6b8b25e7@huawei.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:49:22 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.177.223.23] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Robin, On 2018/5/31 19:24, Robin Murphy wrote: > On 31/05/18 08:42, Zhen Lei wrote: >> In common, a IOMMU unmap operation follow the below steps: >> 1. remove the mapping in page table of the specified iova range >> 2. execute tlbi command to invalid the mapping which is cached in TLB >> 3. wait for the above tlbi operation to be finished >> 4. free the IOVA resource >> 5. free the physical memory resource >> >> This maybe a problem when unmap is very frequently, the combination of tlbi >> and wait operation will consume a lot of time. A feasible method is put off >> tlbi and iova-free operation, when accumulating to a certain number or >> reaching a specified time, execute only one tlbi_all command to clean up >> TLB, then free the backup IOVAs. Mark as non-strict mode. >> >> But it must be noted that, although the mapping has already been removed in >> the page table, it maybe still exist in TLB. And the freed physical memory >> may also be reused for others. So a attacker can persistent access to memory >> based on the just freed IOVA, to obtain sensible data or corrupt memory. So >> the VFIO should always choose the strict mode. >> >> Some may consider put off physical memory free also, that will still follow >> strict mode. But for the map_sg cases, the memory allocation is not controlled >> by IOMMU APIs, so it is not enforceable. >> >> Fortunately, Intel and AMD have already applied the non-strict mode, and put >> queue_iova() operation into the common file dma-iommu.c., and my work is based >> on it. The difference is that arm-smmu-v3 driver will call IOMMU common APIs to >> unmap, but Intel and AMD IOMMU drivers are not. >> >> Below is the performance data of strict vs non-strict for NVMe device: >> Randomly Read  IOPS: 146K(strict) vs 573K(non-strict) >> Randomly Write IOPS: 143K(strict) vs 513K(non-strict) > > What hardware is this on? If it's SMMUv3 without MSIs (e.g. D05), then you'll still be using the rubbish globally-blocking sync implementation. If that is the case, I'd be very interested to see how much there is to gain from just improving that - I've had a patch kicking around for a while[1] (also on a rebased branch at [2]), but don't have the means for serious performance testing. The hardware is the new D06 which the SMMU with MSIs, it's not D05 :) Thanks Hanjun