Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264627AbTIDEpE (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 00:45:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264658AbTIDEpE (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 00:45:04 -0400 Received: from obsidian.spiritone.com ([216.99.193.137]:38039 "EHLO obsidian.spiritone.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264627AbTIDEo5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 00:44:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:41:36 -0700 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Larry McVoy cc: "Brown, Len" , Giuliano Pochini , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Scaling noise Message-ID: <20970000.1062650495@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <20030904030227.GJ5227@work.bitmover.com> References: <20030903173213.GC5769@work.bitmover.com> <89360000.1062613076@flay> <20030904003633.GA5227@work.bitmover.com> <6130000.1062642088@[10.10.2.4]> <20030904023446.GG5227@work.bitmover.com> <9110000.1062643682@[10.10.2.4]> <20030904030227.GJ5227@work.bitmover.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1678 Lines: 37 > You don't make that much money, if any, on the high end, the R&D costs > dominate. Neither of us have figures to hand, I think. But you seem prepared to admit there's some money to be made at least. Therefore it seems like a good market for someone to be in. > But you make money because people buy the middle of the road > because you have the high end. If you don't, they feel uneasy that they > can't grow with you. The high end enables the sales of the real money > makers. It's pure marketing, the high end could be imaginary and as > long as you convinced the customers you had it you'd be more profitable. OK. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that I buy that (I don't really, but agree it might be a factor). What makes you think the argument is different for an OS than it is for hardware? For adoption of Linux as a OS to dominate the market, it's important for the high end to be there as well ... pervasive Linux. Seeing Linux and Open Source in general succeed is important to me personaly as a deep seated belief. Maybe from your own arguments, you can see it's important for the high end to be there, even if you see no other practical purpose for the machines. I believe there are real uses besides marketing for it to be there, but maybe you don't need to believe that to be convinced. M. PS. Of course, that still leaves the question of programming approach, but that's a whole other discussion ;-) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/