Received: by 2002:ac0:a5b6:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m51-v6csp962246imm; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:10:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKL++ww4ZeU+eNFvL2opf3QgOn/mCNrXjjONvpTymGeMfGHeLqBgJUptE+z3ygErlkmXnv7D X-Received: by 2002:a62:f5da:: with SMTP id b87-v6mr22078174pfm.113.1528207841087; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 07:10:41 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1528207841; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=AZ5GH09OGHu0VgQ+8hOZnBP319/Rf9Jqun9DVgVLCBC4v+ytGoxZw48mqXNF5be1Kq vT5EkDv8mp97SjBAZcZ4OhUYMWPO8AOhUCTxV2hxkBdNrYfJQyyMVmv734viTMWqed23 Mo7O8WX+jAaX5e3Sk3XISzUkAXTLjNCdYBf6jy417WZRARdO9nib+Kvh5Qx4jsSvpxKV 68JPvMqE6dz460oIdF8vkwIAA4sEeoiePkOIHh/PShLbG5nURq+Aoa/WTOTtndEqJzgl t2b3p6cs5vefGKoSZRnIdmc7EPD92hcyTwMnel6KrAm/p8QYsUq6Vdm1AZSB7lgMQeoW pmIA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=S8GUY2MTfaewQSY2nX1wmvnx/55gyCbc0YgR9aRQ5yI=; b=yBM0lFM52EfzlKUCpGVE5Dz2CrxRkbguKINm5zUHy1lnfz3fjKVHlEB72/9bnUd56w k5uug7aGtT/PDBJGtljYPOmkuT2V/eYHMTiwE3XVRdruYGKb2Thx5Kalets73G3UbGdE LK5vwPkEUfqDwxa+W/lppTgAzmQgzjvG0jQZN0EoDJX0P6ZccLxqqr66pgAxorR2hDRd 5mLpq3QY20cTDId+AQpCla3Us6PfPOrKJIEoWMX5gHR9vCEfX7ziTU1yKyS1gBwh4ruY LXg3VjsSaGjployHpF2Dy00mV+EenZtjOrsevRDCmZubDqHFqw9MHCcq7zDv8ORlsy/H v3xg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g11-v6si2412924pgf.534.2018.06.05.07.10.26; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 07:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752130AbeFEOKA (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:10:00 -0400 Received: from usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:56474 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751654AbeFEOJ6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:09:58 -0400 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.72.51.249]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F0D1596; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com (e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.210.84]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 687C43F25D; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 15:09:54 +0100 From: Quentin Perret To: Vincent Guittot Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Juri Lelli , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , viresh kumar , Valentin Schneider Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/10] track CPU utilization Message-ID: <20180605140954.GF12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> References: <1527253951-22709-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org> <20180605105721.GA12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180605131224.GC12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180605135215.GD12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 05 Jun 2018 at 15:55:43 (+0200), Vincent Guittot wrote: > On 5 June 2018 at 15:52, Quentin Perret wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 Jun 2018 at 15:18:38 (+0200), Vincent Guittot wrote: > >> On 5 June 2018 at 15:12, Quentin Perret wrote: > >> I would say no because when one will decrease the other one will not > >> increase at the same pace and we will have some wrong behavior or > >> decision > > > > I think I get your point. Yes, sometimes, the slow-moving rt_avg can be > > off a little bit (which can be good or bad, depending in the case) if your > > RT task runs a lot with very changing behaviour. And again, I'm not > > fundamentally against the idea of having extra complexity for RT/IRQ PELT > > signals _if_ we have a use-case. But is there a real use-case where we > > really need all of that ? That's a true question, I honestly don't have > > the answer :-) > > The iperf test result is another example of the benefit The iperf test result ? The sysbench test you mean ?