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Wysocki" , Juri Lelli , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , viresh kumar , Valentin Schneider Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/10] track CPU utilization Message-ID: <20180605142139.GG12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> References: <1527253951-22709-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org> <20180605105721.GA12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180605131224.GC12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180605135215.GD12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180605140954.GF12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180605140954.GF12193@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 05 Jun 2018 at 15:09:54 (+0100), Quentin Perret wrote: > On Tuesday 05 Jun 2018 at 15:55:43 (+0200), Vincent Guittot wrote: > > On 5 June 2018 at 15:52, Quentin Perret wrote: > > > On Tuesday 05 Jun 2018 at 15:18:38 (+0200), Vincent Guittot wrote: > > >> On 5 June 2018 at 15:12, Quentin Perret wrote: > > >> I would say no because when one will decrease the other one will not > > >> increase at the same pace and we will have some wrong behavior or > > >> decision > > > > > > I think I get your point. Yes, sometimes, the slow-moving rt_avg can be > > > off a little bit (which can be good or bad, depending in the case) if your > > > RT task runs a lot with very changing behaviour. And again, I'm not > > > fundamentally against the idea of having extra complexity for RT/IRQ PELT > > > signals _if_ we have a use-case. But is there a real use-case where we > > > really need all of that ? That's a true question, I honestly don't have > > > the answer :-) > > > > The iperf test result is another example of the benefit > > The iperf test result ? The sysbench test you mean ? Ah sorry I missed that one form the cover letter ... I'll look into that then :-) Thanks, Quentin