Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265609AbTIDWKq (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:10:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265601AbTIDWKq (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:10:46 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.31.123]:16332 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265609AbTIDWKh (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:10:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 00:10:36 +0200 From: Martin Mares To: James Clark Cc: root@chaos.analogic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Driver Model 2 Proposal - Linux Kernel Performance v Usability Message-ID: <20030904221036.GA16982@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1062637356.846.3471.camel@cube> <200309042114.45234.jimwclark@ntlworld.com> <200309042251.38514.jimwclark@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309042251.38514.jimwclark@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1745 Lines: 36 Hello! > It mostly works, sometimes it doesn't, but in total the number of > working hours of PRODUCTIVE use from it is many orders of magnitude greater. Maybe the other people working on Linux feel different, but I just don't care about the masses and about anybody's commercial success. If they like using Windows, well, they deserve it. I'm helping to create a system _I_ and the people around me like. About drivers: People around me who are using Windows do have many problems (want to use three different USB scanners simultaneously? eh, forget about that), people using Linux have slightly less or maybe the same amount of problems, but guess what -- for the Linux users there usually is somebody around who knows how to fix the things while Windows users are helplessly reinstalling their binary-only stuff nobody really understands. That's a real story and I guess it's a very typical one. And it's the reason why almost nobody here likes binary-only drivers. > Multiple the number of Windows users in the world by their working time and > then do the same for Linux! Well, you can multiply the number of insects in this universe by their working time and get an even larger number, but does that mean anything except you are skilled in arithmetic? Have a nice fortnight -- Martin `MJ' Mares http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mj/ Faculty of Math and Physics, Charles University, Prague, Czech Rep., Earth First law of socio-genetics: Celibacy is not hereditary. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/