Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261947AbTIEBxV (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:53:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261952AbTIEBxU (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:53:20 -0400 Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.63.78]:36266 "EHLO pimout6-ext.prodigy.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261947AbTIEBwz (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:52:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F57EC78.80801@ameritech.net> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 20:52:56 -0500 From: watermodem Reply-To: aquamodem@ameritech.net Organization: not at all User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030718 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Morton CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test4 on to mpegs and DVB References: <3F560DC6.2090709@ameritech.net> <3F57D776.4050404@ameritech.net> <20030904173901.7ab1b4bb.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20030904173901.7ab1b4bb.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020603030504010107010807" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 20506 Lines: 460 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020603030504010107010807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Morton wrote: > watermodem wrote: > >>The DVD looked and sounded great, but, it was using >> 98% of the CPU! 2.4 never used that much. > > > A kernel profile will be needed to diagnose this further. Please see > Documentation/basic_profiling.txt > > Also check that you have selected the correct IDE chipsets in > configuration. And post your dmesg output, especially the IDE bits. Full mesg attached with IDE stuff included. Will try to do the profiling this weekend. DVD app was XINE. I can provide the config files for it if it would be useful. Also, included: lspci -v, cat /proc/ide/via, and cat settings (DVD) *** it is interesting that it is identifying the wrong cable type for the secondary IDE (DVD/CD) as it most definitely is an 80 wire one. lspci -v 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev 44) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology VT82C691 Apollo Pro System Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16 Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 1.0 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: e0000000-e1ffffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-dfffffff Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] (rev 23) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology VT82C596/A/B PCI to ISA Bridge Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 I/O ports at d000 [size=16] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 I/O ports at d400 [size=32] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 00:07.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management (rev 30) Flags: medium devsel 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 02) Subsystem: Intel Corp. EtherExpress PRO/100B (TX) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at e5100000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at d800 [size=32] Memory at e5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] Expansion ROM at e4000000 [disabled] [size=1M] 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Subsystem: Creative Labs CT4780 SBLive! Value Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5 I/O ports at dc00 [size=32] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 00:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a) Subsystem: Creative Labs Gameport Joystick Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 I/O ports at e000 [size=8] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo receiver) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at e5101000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2 00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo receiver, audio section) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at e5102000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp.: Unknown device 6105 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Expansion ROM at [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 cat /proc/ide/via ----------VIA BusMastering IDE Configuration---------------- Driver Version: 3.37 South Bridge: VIA vt82c596b Revision: ISA 0x23 IDE 0x10 Highest DMA rate: UDMA66 BM-DMA base: 0xd000 PCI clock: 33.3MHz Master Read Cycle IRDY: 1ws Master Write Cycle IRDY: 1ws BM IDE Status Register Read Retry: yes Max DRDY Pulse Width: No limit -----------------------Primary IDE-------Secondary IDE------ Read DMA FIFO flush: yes yes End Sector FIFO flush: no no Prefetch Buffer: no no Post Write Buffer: no no Enabled: yes yes Simplex only: no no Cable Type: 80w 40w -------------------drive0----drive1----drive2----drive3----- Transfer Mode: UDMA UDMA DMA UDMA Address Setup: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns Cmd Active: 90ns 90ns 90ns 90ns Cmd Recovery: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns Data Active: 90ns 90ns 90ns 90ns Data Recovery: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns Cycle Time: 30ns 30ns 120ns 60ns Transfer Rate: 66.6MB/s 66.6MB/s 16.6MB/s 33.3MB/s IDE drive3 is the DVD: cat settings name value min max mode ---- ----- --- --- ---- current_speed 66 0 70 rw dsc_overlap 1 0 1 rw ide-scsi 0 0 1 rw init_speed 12 0 70 rw io_32bit 1 0 3 rw keepsettings 0 0 1 rw nice1 1 0 1 rw number 3 0 3 rw pio_mode write-only 0 255 w slow 0 0 1 rw unmaskirq 1 0 1 rw using_dma 1 0 1 rw --------------020603030504010107010807 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg" Linux version 2.6.0-test4 (root@dali.xxxx.com) (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-0.7mdk)) #2 Tue Sep 2 19:55:57 CDT 2003 Video mode to be used for restore is f00 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000037ff0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000037ff0000 - 0000000037ff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 0000000037ff3000 - 0000000038000000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 895MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 229360 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 225264 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.2 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 GBT ) @ 0x000f6b60 ACPI: RSDT (v001 GBT AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x37ff3000 ACPI: FADT (v001 GBT AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x37ff3040 ACPI: DSDT (v001 GBT AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: MADT not present Building zonelist for node : 0 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=new_linux ro root=341 devfs=mount video=rivafb:1024x768-24@100 -s Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 32768 bytes) Detected 997.705 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 1970.17 BogoMIPS Memory: 903208k/917440k available (2797k kernel code, 13452k reserved, 1085k data, 188k init, 0k highmem) Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) -> /dev -> /dev/console -> /root CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000 ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000 Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... ..... CPU clock speed is 997.0249 MHz. ..... host bus clock speed is 132.0966 MHz. PM: Adding info for No Bus:legacy Initializing RT netlink socket PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb380, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) BIO: pool of 256 setup, 14Kb (56 bytes/bio) biovec pool[0]: 1 bvecs: 256 entries (12 bytes) biovec pool[1]: 4 bvecs: 256 entries (48 bytes) biovec pool[2]: 16 bvecs: 256 entries (192 bytes) biovec pool[3]: 64 bvecs: 256 entries (768 bytes) biovec pool[4]: 128 bvecs: 256 entries (1536 bytes) biovec pool[5]: 256 bvecs: 256 entries (3072 bytes) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030813 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PM: Adding info for No Bus:pci0000:00 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:00.0 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:01.0 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.0 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.1 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.2 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.3 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:09.0 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:0a.0 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:0a.1 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:0b.0 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:0b.1 PM: Adding info for pci:0000:01:00.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 *12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 *10 11 12 14 15) Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support... PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fc060 PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf0000:0xc088, dseg 0xf0000 PM: Adding info for No Bus:pnp0 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:00 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:01 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:02 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:03 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:04 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:05 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:06 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:07 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:08 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:09 PM: Adding info for pnp:00:0c PM: Adding info for pnp:00:0d PM: Adding info for pnp:00:0f PM: Adding info for pnp:00:10 PnPBIOS: 14 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 14 recorded by driver SCSI subsystem initialized drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbfs drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 10 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing PCI: if you experience problems, try using option 'pci=noacpi' or even 'acpi=off' rivafb: nVidia device/chipset 10DE0110 rivafb: Detected CRTC controller 0 being used rivafb: RIVA MTRR set to ON rivafb: PCI nVidia NV10 framebuffer ver 0.9.5b (nVidiaGeForce2-M, 32MB @ 0xD8000000) pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.11 ikconfig 0.5 with /proc/ikconfig Journalled Block Device driver loaded devfs: v1.22 (20021013) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au) devfs: boot_options: 0x1 udf: registering filesystem Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2, 2 throttling states) PM: Adding info for No Bus:pnp1 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Real Time Clock Driver v1.11a Non-volatile memory driver v1.2 Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ IRQ sharing disabled ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] parport0: irq 7 detected parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(38) parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(38) parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(38) parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(38) Using anticipatory scheduling elevator Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 PM: Adding info for platform:floppy0 Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Driver - version 2.3.18-k1 Copyright (c) 2003 Intel Corporation e100: selftest OK. e100: eth0: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Connection Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:07.1 VP_IDE: chipset revision 16 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: VIA vt82c596b (rev 23) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci0000:00:07.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: WDC WD600BB-32BSA0, ATA DISK drive PM: Adding info for No Bus:ide0 hdb: WDC WD800BB-75CAA0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 PM: Adding info for ide:0.0 PM: Adding info for ide:0.1 hdc: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-216B Q001 20010913, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive PM: Adding info for No Bus:ide1 hdd: DVD-ROM DDU1621, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 PM: Adding info for ide:1.0 PM: Adding info for ide:1.1 hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 117231408 sectors (60022 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(66) /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 hdb: max request size: 128KiB hdb: Host Protected Area detected. current capacity is 156250000 sectors (80000 MB) native capacity is 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) hdb: 156250000 sectors (80000 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(66) /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 < p5 p6 p7 > hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 0 hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33) drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.1 uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.2: irq 10, io base 0000d400 uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 PM: Adding info for usb:usb1 hub 1-0:0: USB hub found hub 1-0:0: 2 ports detected PM: Adding info for usb:1-0:0 drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hiddev drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner drivers/usb/image/scanner.c: 0.4.14:USB Scanner Driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 input: AT Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 I2O Core - (C) Copyright 1999 Red Hat Software I2O: Event thread created as pid 12 i2o: Checking for PCI I2O controllers... I2O configuration manager v 0.04. (C) Copyright 1999 Red Hat Software I2O Block Storage OSM v0.9 (c) Copyright 1999-2001 Red Hat Software. i2o_block: Checking for Boot device... i2o_block: Checking for I2O Block devices... i2c /dev entries driver module version 2.7.0 (20021208) Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Wed Aug 20 20:27:13 2003 UTC). request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe -- snd-card-0. error = -16 ALSA device list: #0: Sound Blaster Live! (rev.10) at 0xdc00, irq 5 NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536) NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. BIOS EDD facility v0.09 2003-Jan-22, 2 devices found ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S4bios S5) hub 1-0:0: debounce: port 1: delay 100ms stable 4 status 0x301 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. Mounted devfs on /dev Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed hub 1-0:0: new USB device on port 1, assigned address 2 PM: Adding info for usb:1-1 input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft IntelliMouse? Optical] on usb-0000:00:07.2-1 PM: Adding info for usb:1-1:0 hub 1-0:0: debounce: port 2: delay 100ms stable 4 status 0x101 hub 1-0:0: new USB device on port 2, assigned address 3 PM: Adding info for usb:1-2 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x3002 PM: Adding info for usb:1-2:0 EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal Adding 2096472k swap on /dev/hdb2. Priority:-1 extents:1 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hdb3, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hdb7, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hdb5, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hdb6, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. NTFS driver 2.1.4 [Flags: R/O MODULE]. NTFS-fs warning (device hda1): parse_options(): Option iocharset is deprecated. Please use option nls= in the future. NTFS volume version 3.0. serio: kseriod exiting exiting...exiting...<3>e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full duplex microcode: CPU0 already at revision 1 (current=1) microcode: freed 2048 bytes process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT smbfs: Unrecognized mount option noexec smbfs: Unrecognized mount option noexec --------------020603030504010107010807-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/