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Date:   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 01:10:03 -0700
From:   Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To:     Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 09:54:31PM +0000, Christopher Lameter wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2018, john.hubbard@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > I've come up with what I claim is a simple, robust fix, but...I'm
> > presuming to burn a struct page flag, and limit it to 64-bit arches, in
> > order to get there. Given that the problem is old (Jason Gunthorpe noted
> > that RDMA has been living with this problem since 2005), I think it's
> > worth it.
> >
> > Leaving the new page flag set "nearly forever" is not great, but on the
> > other hand, once the page is actually freed, the flag does get cleared.
> > It seems like an acceptable tradeoff, given that we only get one bit
> > (and are lucky to even have that).
> 
> This is not robust. Multiple processes may register a page with the RDMA
> subsystem. How do you decide when to clear the flag? I think you would
> need an additional refcount for the number of times the page was
> registered.

And it's not just RDMA that is using get_user_pages.  We have tons of
users that do short, spurious get_user_pages do do zero copy operations.

We can't leave the page in a wrecked state after that.

> I still think the cleanest solution here is to require mmu notifier
> callbacks and to not pin the page in the first place. If a NIC does not
> support a hardware mmu then it can still simulate it in software by
> holding off the ummapping the mmu notifier callback until any pending
> operation is complete and then invalidate the mapping so that future
> operations require a remapping (or refaulting).

Sounds ok for RDMA, not going to help for most other users.