Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264862AbTIJOh2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:37:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264881AbTIJOh2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:37:28 -0400 Received: from kinesis.swishmail.com ([209.10.110.86]:61713 "HELO kinesis.swishmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S264862AbTIJOhW (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:37:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F5F3C46.4060004@techsource.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:59:18 -0400 From: Timothy Miller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Schwartz CC: Pascal Schmidt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3458 Lines: 60 I'm still 1600 messages behind in reading the list, but I have spent enough time reading the discussion about GPL and drivers that I feel compelled to comment. I don't intend to comment further because I don't want to contribute to a flamewar any more than this already will. But I feel the need to defend those who contribute to Free Software against those who don't. The argument I have been reading has been centered around the idea of working around the GPL to support binary-only driver and various other things which are counter to the spirit of the GPL and Linux. But someone who is trying to find a legal GPL loophole is not considering the root of the situation and that the GPL is an effect, not a cause. A point someone else made that I feel compelled to reiterate is that it is the nature of the Linux development model and the attitude of the developers which has made Linux what it is and has made you want to use it. But I have another point. You are not dealing with a license here. The license is there to satisfy lawyers and make clear the INTENT of the authors. The keyword here is INTENT in that someone who has developed something is telling you how they feel about the use of their work which, under many circumstances, they could have chosen not to share with you. What you are dealing with is real people who have put an incredible amount of time and effort into developing Linux. Those people, to whom you owe much respect for sharing their contributions, have decided that their software should be used with certain restrictions, that being the GPL. If you abuse Linux, it is not the GPL that you are insulting, but the people who developed Linux. The GPL_ONLY restriction for driver modules may seem unfair, but it is far from it. There are both valid technical and philosophical reasons for working that way. No one forces you to use Linux, and when you made the choice to use it, you are entering into a community with a specific philosophy. You know that philosophy in advance, so when you discover that you have a restruction you don't like, you have no room to complain. As someone said, if you want to write drivers for a UNIX which does not have these restrictions, there are plenty of commercial UNIXes out there that you have to choose from. The fact that they are perhaps less popular is one reason why Linux developers do not want to imitate them. So, the discussions about finding ways to make a non-GPL driver look like a GPL driver and get away with it legally are all moot. The reason you should not violate this is because the architects of Linux do not want you to. If you choose to violate that, you are being unethical, pure and simple. Or more to the point, you're being an asshole to a lot of hard-working people who have chosen to freely share their work with you. Since they are the authors and you are not, their feelings about their softare are more important than yours. You may be able to screw them over and get away with it -- people do that sort of thing all the time -- but the fact that you may find a legal loophole doesn't make you any less of an abject asshole. In short: Be honorable. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/