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McKenney" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, joel@joelfernandes.org Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/27] rcu: Add comment documenting how rcu_seq_snap works Message-ID: <20180626192113.GM2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20180626003448.GA26209@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20180626003513.27812-16-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20180626171454.GI2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180626180855.GE3593@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180626180855.GE3593@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:08:55AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 07:14:54PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 05:35:02PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > From: "Joel Fernandes (Google)" > > > > > > rcu_seq_snap may be tricky to decipher. Lets document how it works with > > > an example to make it easier. > > > > Since you had me looking at them functions; why isn't rcu_seq_snap() > > using smp_load_acquire() and rcu_seq_end() using smp_store_release() ? > > Their respective comments seem to suggest that would be sufficent. > > I do not believe that this would suffice. Would it make sense to refer > to Documentation/RCU/Design/Memory-Ordering in the comment header? No, because I can't read that thing in an editor. > Except that this would invite sprinkling this pathname far and wide... > > The key point is that these functions are part of the any-to-any > memory-ordering guarantee that RCU grace periods provide. Then the existing comment is misleading and really needs change.