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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:04:55 -0400
From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
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To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
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Subject: Re: People, not GPL  [was: Re: Driver Model]
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David Schwartz wrote:
>>On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:40:14 +0200, you wrote in linux.kernel:
> 
> 
>>>However, Richard Stallman does not agree with this view. It's his
>>>view that if the authors chose to give you the code, you can use it any
>>>way you want to, regardless of how the authors feel about that type of
>>>usage. This is why he created the GPL.
>>
> 
>>Use in any way you want to is the BSD license, not the GPL.
> 
> 
> 	Please show me one restriction on *use* in the GPL.
> 
> "Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
> covered by this License; they are outside its scope.  The act of
> running the Program is not restricted, and the output from the Program
> is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the
> Program (independent of having been made by running the Program).
> Whether that is true depends on what the Program does."
> 
> 	Licenses that place restrictions on usage are *not* open source licenses.


What about "usage" of source code?

GPL says you are not allowed to "use" GPL source in a non-free program 
that you publish.

> 
>>The GPL
>>does restrict what you're allowed to do in order to keep the source
>>free...
> 
> 
> 	Yes, it restricts your ability to distribute and your ability to create
> derived works if and only if you distribute those derived works. It places
> no restrictions whatsoever on use. And since it requires distributors to
> place no restrictions not in the GPL, distributors cannot place *any*
> restrictions on usage either.

I don't think anyone was talking about use of applications, but rather 
use of source code.


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