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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] IIO: st_accel_i2c.c: Use probe_new() instead of
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To:     Nikolaus Voss <nikolaus.voss@loewensteinmedical.de>,
        Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@dowhile0.org>
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From:   Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
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Date:   Wed, 4 Jul 2018 15:44:17 +0200
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On 07/04/2018 03:24 PM, Nikolaus Voss wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Nikolaus Voss
>> <nikolaus.voss@loewensteinmedical.de> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Nikolaus Voss
>>>> <nikolaus.voss@loewensteinmedical.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> But this discussion isn't really related to your patch. I think is
>>>> correct but just said that (b) wasn't a justification to leave the I2C
>>>> table, points (a) and (c) are though. I won't really be convinced that
>>>> the fallback is the correct thing to do or even a good idea.
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't want to annoy you, I just wanted to understand why you think
>>> fallback is such a bad thing that you call it a bug. And I see, it has its
>>> drawbacks ;-). Anyway, thanks for taking the time to clarify this,
>>>
>>
>> Oh, I'm not annoyed, sorry if I sounded that way. What I tried to say
>> is that I've a strong opinion on this and won't be convinced otherwise
>> :)
>>
>> So for me is a bug because that would mean that either an entry is
>> missing in an OF device table or a DTS has a node with a compatible
>> string without a vendor prefix.
> 
> Yes, I see your point (and your strong opinion :-)), but AFAIK vendor 
> prefix is not mandatory... At least for vendor-agnostic drivers like 

The latest Device Tree specification [0] says about the compatible string:

"The recommended format is 'manufacturer,model', where manufacturer is a
string describing the name of the manufacturer (such as a stock ticker
symbol), and model specifies the model number".

> "regulator-fixed" (very popular in dts files). My point is not bloating

I don't think the "regulator-fixed" is a good example. Since the Device Tree
should describe the hardware. The "regulator-fixed" is a convenient way to
describe a fixed voltage regulator but I think is more of an exception.

I'm pretty sure that the DT maintainers wouldn't ack a DT binding with a
compatible string that doesn't have a manufacture prefix nowadays.

> drivers with large redundant (from a driver-functional view) tables when 
> one table could be enough for a properly working driver. Having three 

You need the OF table anyways for module autoload since the I2C core will report
a OF module alias. You can only do the I2C fallback trick if your driver can't
be build as a module. But even in that case you would be ignoring the vendor.

> different names for exactly the same isn't very beautiful IMO.
>

I agree with you on that. But abusing a table used by another firmware interface
isn't beautiful either. So I think the best is to have consistency and always
use the same table for the same firmware interface.

> I hope you're still not annoyed...
> 

Don't worry for that, it's very hard to get my annoyed :)

> Niko
> 

[0]: https://github.com/devicetree-org/devicetree-specification/releases/tag/v0.2

Best regards,
-- 
Javier Martinez Canillas
Software Engineer - Desktop Hardware Enablement
Red Hat