Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261815AbTIMR7b (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:59:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261903AbTIMR7a (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:59:30 -0400 Received: from pc1-cwma1-5-cust4.swan.cable.ntl.com ([80.5.120.4]:57755 "EHLO dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261815AbTIMR73 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:59:29 -0400 Subject: Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] From: Alan Cox To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Timothy Miller , David Schwartz , Pascal Schmidt , Linux Kernel Development In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1063475882.8519.28.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-5) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:58:03 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1310 Lines: 27 On Sad, 2003-09-13 at 15:18, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Unfortunately it seems to be almost impossible to design a license that forces > you to play according to the rules of fair play, and doesn't have any > loopholes or grey areas. Fair play is awfully hard to define. Fair use likewise. Currently almost all countries legal systems have a clear notion of "derived work", and copyright (unlike patents) extends no further. That limits how far the GPL can extend, but its the same line in the sand (well fuzzy patch in the sand in truth) that stops a lot of other things you wouldnt like. Which and what modules count as derivative works is a lawyer question and not it seems a trivial one. Patents do extend beyond just the derived work and since Linux contains patented material with rights granted for GPL use as per the GPL(but not for non GPL use) there is a murky area around modules and patents - one example of the issues that raises being RTLinux. Folks using binary modules may also find third party software licenses invalid (eg the OpenMotif one) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/