Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262057AbTIMSF7 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:05:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262158AbTIMSF7 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:05:59 -0400 Received: from pc1-cwma1-5-cust4.swan.cable.ntl.com ([80.5.120.4]:59803 "EHLO dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262057AbTIMSF5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:05:57 -0400 Subject: Re: DMA for ide-scsi? From: Alan Cox To: Mikael Pettersson Cc: axboe@suse.de, Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <200309131101.h8DB1WNd021570@harpo.it.uu.se> References: <200309131101.h8DB1WNd021570@harpo.it.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1063476275.8702.35.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-5) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 19:04:36 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1452 Lines: 34 On Sad, 2003-09-13 at 12:01, Mikael Pettersson wrote: > That begs the question: why won't ide-scsi do DMA? Because nobody added it. Its that simple > I understand you'd rather see it disappear (:->) but since I use > it for other ATAPI devices as well, I'd like to see it maintained > and fully operational. Having DMA in ide-scsi would be nice. I don't see it vanishing either - people abuse IDE (especially SATA) for weird stuff like high end scanners which want to use ide-scsi for sg. I agree with Bart about ide-scsi for disks. For tape ide-tape isnt good enough for newer stuff but that could be fixed either way > (And the concept of using a SCSI API to ATA devices is in itself > not broken, even if the implementation has some problems.) ATA drives don't generally talk ATAPI as well so you have protocol stuff. For Serial ATA that is what the current SATA code everyone is using does and each SATA vendor has followed the same path because our existing PATA code In 2.7 the SCSI layer split can get finished so it seperates "scsi the protocol" from "queueing engine and handling for an intelligent controller". Right now its not too bad - error handling is entirely pluggable for example. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/