Received: by 2002:ac0:a5a7:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m36-v6csp209383imm; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 23:43:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcembuSDiJ7cAHCxfYmDO+Pxg6paHoRIz7LET+j7sEJ6iPsCk1wQowqZMpi8UOI85ZqfJab X-Received: by 2002:a62:e00a:: with SMTP id f10-v6mr20178995pfh.208.1531118614324; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 23:43:34 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1531118614; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=m32etWgUN/qEM+DR/QPGsp7PKkJcG63VOBGdbQd1cboGbjqWAVtHay75C7Gkf3u54P VOtGFha5z7jYJLjEeiwEWrn1neifacuNIzxHqomhgrarNg0tOV78nnMeA5EBeA96QkAm F4NnJ3i7lEwvf1PnDGlMSt1FA2e9UxHHVXzgmSHj1sf3JkmIdwQyPS/H+Efye6qGjUNu oMlLDqSALQF2Nn4H5uU6SetxCOt+qc1yY2PNvGV2EjWTGnwfCpKJ/0IWNaQ0ztn/8xUw a9TPBDKGzx1up5R0Z9pO9gJmCSW+RmH252NlYdoBXeDUOVapkj3R+IBPKocKnAFXGcW+ UANw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:organization:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=ymFHATF7SC3zCXfAHzVi0I6YPcVYYh568Ms5qrgJMJ4=; b=e5ShBhEuILEKpYoYM0wNqRPlqp8vn7fQiUkq5Y3WU7PjDkinNxas5OOEtEWATUrgJu OHVDj34voya/h5xpi+9qg3BYyXljiYSFsF+auHBGdbhpNq1xlf0i0XDzthBzHktUZw8/ 4ASM2RPzsQo7/Wu/Q9UDVSk0oGHM33e6z1wSuv7xE80Cn5qYGh5mMcrKHMo/1573KiAn 8w+X4RtyI8w3of9D4E6GyvKUXxGiREIlEsbbKbAlL2ylPs8i0TVmCSkLiK/WmzmhKEVl /cDAAP9u0a9diRvyAJEp5EcARJUpqMvI4Hvrh7BTr6oVTp4/N8teOpsISvlCJve6zkcF GMyw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x3-v6si13482934plo.185.2018.07.08.23.43.19; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 23:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754467AbeGIGlh (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 9 Jul 2018 02:41:37 -0400 Received: from mga17.intel.com ([192.55.52.151]:4417 "EHLO mga17.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750952AbeGIGlg (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jul 2018 02:41:36 -0400 X-Amp-Result: UNKNOWN X-Amp-Original-Verdict: FILE UNKNOWN X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from orsmga001.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.18]) by fmsmga107.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 Jul 2018 23:41:35 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.51,329,1526367600"; d="scan'208";a="71121118" Received: from lahna.fi.intel.com (HELO lahna) ([10.237.72.157]) by orsmga001.jf.intel.com with SMTP; 08 Jul 2018 23:41:30 -0700 Received: by lahna (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 09 Jul 2018 09:41:30 +0300 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:41:30 +0300 From: Mika Westerberg To: Mario.Limonciello@dell.com Cc: yehezkelshb@gmail.com, lukas@wunner.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andreas.noever@gmail.com, michael.jamet@intel.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, christian@kellner.me Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] thunderbolt: Add support for runtime PM Message-ID: <20180709064130.GX2534@lahna.fi.intel.com> References: <20180618110731.57427-1-mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> <20180618110731.57427-6-mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> <20180707211401.GA13111@wunner.de> <20180708073130.GR2534@lahna.fi.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 04:20:00AM +0000, Mario.Limonciello@dell.com wrote: > In practice I don't anticipate anyone in the industry outside of Apple wiring up TBT > with RTD3 unless it's at least Alpine Ridge or newer. I don't think Apple does it even with Alpine Ridge. I have one Macbook here with AR and it for sure does not do any kind of runtime PM when there is a device connected.