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Date:   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:11:55 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:     Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
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        linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
        Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
        Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
        Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
        Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: Replace smp_cond_acquire() with
 smp_cond_load_acquire()
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 05:53:55PM +0200, Andrea Parri wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 08:38:40AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 03:08:50PM +0200, Andrea Parri wrote:
> > > Amend commit 1f03e8d2919270 ("locking/barriers: Replace smp_cond_acquire()
> > > with smp_cond_load_acquire()") by updating the documentation accordingly.
> > > Also remove some obsolete information related to the implementation.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
> > > Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
> > > Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>
> > > Cc: Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>
> > > Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > Cc: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
> > > ---
> > >  Documentation/memory-barriers.txt | 3 +--
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > I have queued this for further review, thank you!  Just to confirm,
> > the reason that the old passage was obsolete is because ARMv8 implements
> > smp_cond_load_acquire() as a straight acquire load, correct?
> 
> Thanks.  Yes; the generic code builds on a control dependency and an
> smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep() (which defaults to smp_rmb()); but the
> required ordering on arm64 is given by (its) smp_load_acquire().
> 
> I thought that entering this level of details (and keeping it up-to-
> date ;) wasn't really worth/needed for this high-level doc.

Agreed!

							Thanx, Paul

>   Andrea
> 
> 
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > > index 0d8d7ef131e9a..c1d913944ad8b 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > > @@ -471,8 +471,7 @@ And a couple of implicit varieties:
> > >       operations after the ACQUIRE operation will appear to happen after the
> > >       ACQUIRE operation with respect to the other components of the system.
> > >       ACQUIRE operations include LOCK operations and both smp_load_acquire()
> > > -     and smp_cond_acquire() operations. The later builds the necessary ACQUIRE
> > > -     semantics from relying on a control dependency and smp_rmb().
> > > +     and smp_cond_load_acquire() operations.
> > > 
> > >       Memory operations that occur before an ACQUIRE operation may appear to
> > >       happen after it completes.
> > > -- 
> > > 2.7.4
> > > 
> > 
>