Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261419AbTIOUSG (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:18:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261532AbTIOUSG (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:18:06 -0400 Received: from mail.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.131]:389 "EHLO shell.webmaster.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261419AbTIOUSD (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:18:03 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Timothy Miller" Cc: "Pascal Schmidt" , Subject: RE: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:17:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3F6603D8.1070009@techsource.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2557 Lines: 57 > David Schwartz wrote: > > This is a publication restriction, not a usage restriction. > > Your phrasing > > above is like saying, "you can't put bullets into a gun that you use to > > shoot a police officer". The restriction is on the shooting, not the > > loading. > Are you saying that publishing a program does not constitute a "usage" > of the program and/or its source code? No, I'm saying that publishing a program is not *just* a usage of the program. You can have full usage rights to a program and not be able to publish it because publication requires granting rights to other people, which is not use. Similarly, I can give you full rights to use my house but you still can't sell my house. That's not because "selling" isn't a way of "using", it's because selling is "using and then some". The additional thing that distribution has that usage doesn't is the ability to grant rights to others. The GPL is quite clear on this point: "Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope. The act of running the Program is not restricted, and the output from the Program is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the Program (independent of having been made by running the Program). Whether that is true depends on what the Program does." When you distribute a copyrighted work, you are not just distributing the physical work but you are also conveying at last some rights of usage to other people. Conveying rights of usage is legally distinct from having rights of usage. Unrestricted use does not mean you can do whatever you please so long as it somehow involves usage, it just means that the restrictions aren't upon the usage itself. So anything that is *just* usage is okay. Anything that is usage and something else is okay so long as the something else is okay. You can have full unrestricted use of my bat and you still can't use it to beat a stranger, but that's because you couldn't use anything to beat a stranger, not because you don't have full use of the bat. Distribution is usage and something else. The something else being the conveying of usage rights to others. If you have unrestricted use, you can still only distribute if you have the rights to the something else. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/