Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261346AbTITEaf (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:30:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261368AbTITEae (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:30:34 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:43752 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261346AbTITEad (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:30:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:30:26 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Fix for wrong OOM killer trigger? Message-ID: <20030920043026.GA10836@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Andrea Arcangeli , Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030919191613.36750de3.bless@tm.uka.de> <20030919192544.GC1312@velociraptor.random> <20030919203538.D1919@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20030919200117.GE1312@velociraptor.random> <20030919205220.GA19830@work.bitmover.com> <20030920033153.GA1452@velociraptor.random> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030920033153.GA1452@velociraptor.random> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2286 Lines: 47 On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 05:31:53AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > If I would remotely think my signature is rude with you, or anybody > else, I wouldn't post it anymore, especially after you point me to it. > [etc] The problem is that you are saying that closed source is bad, in particular, that BitKeeper is bad. That's not the problem, lots of people think that closed source is bad, but in the same breath you promote some free gateways PAID FOR BY BITKEEPER and requested by you. That's hypocritical in the extreme. Let me clue you in. The economy sucks. Nobody except Microsoft is getting rich in this economy. Everyone is looking to cut costs and we are too. It costs us money to provide those gateways. I write checks every month to keep them going. As a corporation we derive zero benefit from providing those gateways. They are there because you asked for them and I thought the deal was that you would stop whining once you got them. If that's the deal, then stop whining. If that's not the deal, ok, I guess I misunderstood, but I can save some money and shut them down. Then your signature can read: /* * We used to be able to depend on the following license free gateways * but I was deliberately rude to the people providing them so they went * away: * * rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/ * :pserver:anonymous@kernel.bkbits.net:/home/cvs/linux-2.[45]/ * svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk */ Sooner or later, I expect the more reasonable people out there to explain to you that your actions are hurting them and maybe they'll help you decide which is more important, getting at the data you want, in a timely manner, without a license, or doing negative advertising against us. If the other folks don't care enough to do that then that's fine, the gateways are not important and you can whine all you want but you'll be back to waiting for tarball releases and we can save some money. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/