Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261946AbTITT4c (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:56:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261950AbTITT4c (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:56:32 -0400 Received: from mail.jlokier.co.uk ([81.29.64.88]:42624 "EHLO mail.jlokier.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261946AbTITT4b (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:56:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:56:10 +0100 From: Jamie Lokier To: Larry McVoy , Bernd Schmidt , Larry McVoy , Andrea Arcangeli , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Gateways (was Re: Fix for wrong OOM killer trigger?) Message-ID: <20030920195610.GB8953@mail.jlokier.co.uk> References: <20030919191613.36750de3.bless@tm.uka.de> <20030919192544.GC1312@velociraptor.random> <20030919203538.D1919@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20030919200117.GE1312@velociraptor.random> <20030919205220.GA19830@work.bitmover.com> <20030920033153.GA1452@velociraptor.random> <20030920043026.GA10836@work.bitmover.com> <20030920135430.GA17559@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030920135430.GA17559@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1311 Lines: 30 Larry McVoy wrote: > Nonsense. This isn't closed source issue at all because the issue is the > CVS gateway. You don't need source to write that gateway and you could > have (and recall that Linus said you should have) written the gateway > yourself, hosted it yourself, and maintained it yourself. I was prepared to write such a gatway. We discussed it, and found that the combination of BitKeeper license and BitMover's control over the kernel repository prevents it. This was the subject of a heated debate. I believe that debate was the reason BitMover wrote and now host the BK->CVS gateway, which other gateways are built upon. It's a brilliant solution, and thank you, I am glad of your work, but let's not pretend that a 3rd party is in a position to offer such a gateway. (You need either the BK protocol, the right to run BK, or a copy of the BK repository files to extract data from, and none of these are available to a 3rd party who wants to write and support a BK->whatever gateway for the kernel tree. I asked; all 3 were refused). -- Jamie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/