Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261877AbTIUOW0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:22:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261882AbTIUOW0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:22:26 -0400 Received: from ppp-217-133-42-200.cust-adsl.tiscali.it ([217.133.42.200]:31899 "EHLO velociraptor.random") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261877AbTIUOWY (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:22:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:22:52 +0200 From: Andrea Arcangeli To: "Eric W. Biederman" Cc: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Fix for wrong OOM killer trigger? Message-ID: <20030921142252.GB16399@velociraptor.random> References: <20030919191613.36750de3.bless@tm.uka.de> <20030919192544.GC1312@velociraptor.random> <20030919203538.D1919@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20030919200117.GE1312@velociraptor.random> <20030919205220.GA19830@work.bitmover.com> <20030920033153.GA1452@velociraptor.random> <20030920043026.GA10836@work.bitmover.com> <20030920142314.GA1338@velociraptor.random> <20030920151332.GA18387@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key: 1024D/68B9CB43 13D9 8355 295F 4823 7C49 C012 DFA1 686E 68B9 CB43 X-PGP-Key: 1024R/CB4660B9 CC A0 71 81 F4 A0 63 AC C0 4B 81 1D 8C 15 C8 E5 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2225 Lines: 39 On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 04:40:29AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Careful with your accusations Larry, some of us can answer those questions, > in ways that won't support your argument. It didn't worth an answer IMHO, he's ignoring lots of efforts going on, AFIK you're in the bios area like many others, especially for x86-64 it sounds very promising. notably these days my PDA strictly runs open source since I strictly need it for security reasons, for istance I nuked Opera immediatly and replaced it with konqueror and the whole openzaurus suite, I will do the same soon with the cellphone, and everything he listed is all but critical, and we pay that as well to have some sort of warranty most of the time, at least for the first few years, nothing like the bkbits.net that can be shutdown anyday, Larry made sure he can turn everything "free" of anytime AFIK. And we have many providers for cellphones microwaves cars etc.. not just one. If something breaks and can't be repaired I throw it away and buy another one. But it would be unacceptable to throw away the whole 2.5 changesets instead. And without this bkcvs export in the open, they could be lost anyday of the week. And I can't even try to extract those with b*tkeeper, since it's illegal to do so from my part. yeah, if there wasn't bkcvs, somebody had to sacrifice his freedom for us to extract this closed info encoded in proprietary form (like a .doc). since many already sacrificed their freedom of development in this area, maybe it wouldn't be too bad, they're already screwed so it can't go worse for them, but bkcvs to me sounds much safer than an hope that somebody oneday will do the conversion after sacrificing its freedom and after sorting out the linearization of the tree. Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links: rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/ http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/ svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/