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Ts'o" To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Jann Horn , salyzyn@google.com, Nick Desaulniers , Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch, Greg KH , Kees Cook , salyzyn@android.com, kernel list , Ingo Molnar , kernel-team@android.com, stable@vger.kernel.org, Kernel Hardening , Jeffrey Vander Stoep Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: do not leak kernel addresses Message-ID: <20180727202114.GH13922@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Steven Rostedt , Jann Horn , salyzyn@google.com, Nick Desaulniers , Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch, Greg KH , Kees Cook , salyzyn@android.com, kernel list , Ingo Molnar , kernel-team@android.com, stable@vger.kernel.org, Kernel Hardening , Jeffrey Vander Stoep References: <753E9YR1QhdsPhsFoYuXCwfUzfyntDrc_A93hMUkktMi7lbh3KUZMcbfqKVWUfi15zYhuiDFant-ROa4QNV5shx74ff4hGngq2BOJDv-hq4=@protonmail.ch> <20180727094730.3a448629@gandalf.local.home> <20180727143141.4b53d554@gandalf.local.home> <20180727195416.GF13922@thunk.org> <20180727161103.797f12b7@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180727161103.797f12b7@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 04:11:03PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > That said, I would assume that > other Android utilities are using other debugfs files for system > status and such. Yeah, I know we probably have lost the "debugfs is only for debugging and has no place in a production system" battle, and we should just move on and assume we need to completely harden all of debugfs. But it's worth at least *asking* whether or not the use of debugfs for Android can be avoided.... - Ted