Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263387AbTIWXEW (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:04:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263412AbTIWXEW (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:04:22 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.24]:8399 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263387AbTIWXEU (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:04:20 -0400 From: Ian Wienand To: "David S. Miller" Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:04:12 +1000 Cc: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: NS83820 2.6.0-test5 driver seems unstable on IA64 Message-ID: <20030923230412.GA30157@cse.unsw.EDU.AU> References: <16234.36238.848366.753588@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au> <20030919055304.GE16928@wotan.suse.de> <20030919064922.B3783@kvack.org> <16239.38154.969505.748461@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au> <20030922203629.B21836@kvack.org> <20030922232237.28a5ac4a.davem@redhat.com> <16240.8965.91289.460763@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au> <20030923035118.578203d5.davem@redhat.com> <16240.24511.375148.520203@napali.hpl.hp.com> <20030923102735.42a59d57.davem@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030923102735.42a59d57.davem@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1797 Lines: 26 On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:27:35AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > As I understand it, you even do this stupid printk for user apps > as well, that makes it more than rediculious. Just as a point of interest, as an application programmer I think it's the type of thing you want to know about quite loudly. The only benchmark style figure on this I've ever seen is in this paper http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_vstechart/html/vcconWindowsDataAlignmentOnIPFX86X86-64.asp (forgive the long url) which, if you scroll down to the little graph, shows OS fixup is about 450 times slower that an aligned access. That sucks, and if I didn't realise I'd done it, it would suck even more. Oh, and I think fixing it up automatically & warning is much more useful than sending a (by default) terminating signal to the program; though I'm sure others might disagree. -i ianw@gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/