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Date:   Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:29:04 -0700
From:   Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
To:     Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi@samsung.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/12] PM / devfreq: export devfreq_class
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:41:14PM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> Hi Chanwoo,
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 06:08:36PM +0900, Chanwoo Choi wrote:
> > Hi Matthias,
> > 
> > On 2018년 07월 07일 03:09, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 02:30:32PM +0900, Chanwoo Choi wrote:
> > > 
> > >> I didn't see any framework which exporting the class instance.
> > >> It is very dangerous. Unknown device drivers is able to reset
> > >> the 'devfreq_class' instance. I can't agree this approach.
> > > 
> > > While I agree that it is potential dangerous it is actually a common
> > > practice to export the class:
> > > 
> > 
> > I tried to find the real usage of exported class instance
> > and I add the comment for each class instance. Almost exported class
> > instance are used in the their own director or some exported class
> > like rio_mport_class/switchtec_class are created from specific device driver
> > instead of subsystem.
> > 
> > Only following two cases are used on outside of subsystem directory.
> > devtmpfs.c and alarmtimer.c are core feature of linux kernel.
> > 
> > 	drivers/base/devtmpfs.c uses 'block_class'.
> > 	kernel/time/alarmtimer.c uses 'rtc_class'.
> > 
> > I cannot yet agree this approach due to only block_class and rtc_class.
> 
> I thought your main concern was that the class is exported, which is
> what several other subsystems do. That the class isn't used outside of
> the subsystem directory most likely means that there is no need for
> it, rather than that it shouldn't be done at all (depending on the
> type of use of course).
> 
> In any case not exporting the class object provides a limited
> protection against potential abuse of the class at best. To use the
> class API all that is needed is a 'struct device' of a devfreq device,
> which has a pointer to the class object (dev->class).
> 
> Theoretically I could register a fake devfreq device to obtain access
> to the class object, though that doesn't seem a very neat approach ;-)
> 
> > You added the following comment why devfreq_class instance is necessary.
> > Actullay, I don't know the best solution right now. But, all device drivers
> > can be added or removed if driver uses the module type. It is not a problem
> > for only devfreq instance.
> 
> Certainly it's not a problem limited to devfreq devices. In many other
> cases bus notifiers can be used, but since devfreq devices areen't
> tied to a specific bus this is not an option here.
> 
> If you really don't want to export the class we could add wrappers
> for (un)registering a class interface:
> 
> int devfreq_class_interface_register(struct class_interface *)
> void devfreq_class_interface_unregister(struct class_interface *)
> 
> The wrappers would have to assign ci->class since the throttler
> can't see the class object.
> 
> Or add notifiers for device addition/removal, though the throttler
> relies on the behavior of the class_interface which also notifies
> about devices added before registration. This might not be what other
> potential users of the notifiers expect.

Ping

Could we please try to find a solution/reach a conclusion for this?

Not that it should affect the outcome of this discussion, but I want
to mention that from my point of view it is a bit unfortunate that
this and other fundamental concerns were only raised after I spent
significant time on repeatedly refactoring the throttler driver to
address other comments. Since you and MyungJoo Ham previously had only
minor comments on the other devfreq patches in this series I assumed
there were no major concerns from your side :(