Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261419AbTIXDrD (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:47:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261434AbTIXDrD (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:47:03 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:19592 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261419AbTIXDq7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:46:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:45:52 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Rik van Riel Cc: Larry McVoy , Andrea Arcangeli , andrea@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Kernel Mailing List , Matthew Wilcox , Marcelo Tosatti Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic Message-ID: <20030924034552.GB7887@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Larry McVoy , Andrea Arcangeli , andrea@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Kernel Mailing List , Matthew Wilcox , Marcelo Tosatti References: <20030924031602.GA7887@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.3, required 7, AWL) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1591 Lines: 33 On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:31:05PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Yeah. I'm using the Linux VM. And it _still_ isn't up to what I managed > > to accomplish in SunOS. Wake up, dude. You aren't the first one to > > work in this area, you are just one of the first to work in this area > > without learning from the people who came before you. Don't believe me? > > Go to OLS and read the papers. Then read the OS research that has > > happened in the last 20 years or so. So far you are still catching up. > > Bad example ;) > > While it is true that the Linux VM doesn't do a whole > lot of the things a VM should do, there is also the > fact that the VM problem space has gotten a lot harder > over the last decade due to the fact that the size of > disk and memory has grown way faster than the speed of > disk and memory. Oh, I agree. The problem space changes and you have to move with it. I was just pointing out that by not learning from others you put yourself at a disadvantage. There are a lot of bright minds in the Linux space, there is no question of that. But they would do so much better if they understood the past. The past holds a lot of information, ignoring it is a disadvantage. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/