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Date:   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 23:15:26 -0400
From:   "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To:     Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: remove speck
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On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:12:38PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I mention this because people are naturally going to be curious about that, e.g.
> speculating that Google found a "backdoor" -- remember that we do have some good
> cryptographers!  I'm just stating what we know, out of honesty and openness; I
> don't really intend to be arguing for Speck with this statement, and in any case
> we already made the decision to not use Speck.

Let's be clear --- the arguments about whether or not to use Speck,
and whether or not to remove Speck from the kernel, are purely
political --- not techinical.

						- Ted