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Biederman" , Christian Brauner , Andy Lutomirski Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] seccomp trap to userspace Message-ID: <20180811023232.GI12274@cisco.lan> References: <20180621220416.5412-1-tycho@tycho.ws> <20180807024442.GA12274@cisco.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:11:50PM -0700, Dinesh Subhraveti wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 7:44 PM, Tycho Andersen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Dinesh Subhraveti has claimed that some part of this series might be > > patented. While he has not furnished me with anything to confirm this > > claim, I'll put this series on hold. > > For the sake of everyone's clarity, there is no patent or intellectual > property issue here and we'd like to see this feature in the kernel. I did > indicate that there is a patent related to the mechanism underlying this > patch set but that is completely incidental to the issue here. We have > filed that patent only for the purpose of defense and have no interest or > resources to go after infringements. As such, I spoke about the approach, > it's value for networking and a few possible ways of implementing it in the > kernel at Linux Plumbers Conference 2017. > > As a contractor and a member of our team at AppSwitch (FKA Fermat), Tycho > Andersen helped implement a fully user space version of system call trap > mechanism based on seccomp / fd-passing and participated in our team > discussions about upstreaming a kernel version of the feature. Given that > context, we were taken aback that he posted the v1 patch set without > letting us know and without any mention of AppSwitch in the post even > though he was still under contract at that time. It seems we disagree on the series of events, but agree that this patchset should move forward. I'll work on preparing a v5. Thanks! Tycho