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From:   Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:36:32 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/2] Input: Add Cypress Gen5 Touchscreen driver
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Hi Myl=C3=A8ne,

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:24 AM Myl=C3=A8ne Josserand
<mylene.josserand@bootlin.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:40:53 -0700
> Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Myl=C3=A8ne,
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 03:00:46PM +0200, Myl=C3=A8ne Josserand wrote:
> > > Hello Dmitry,
> > >
> > > On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 16:21:58 +0000
> > > Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Myl=C3=A8ne,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 11:43:07AM +0200, Myl=C3=A8ne Josserand wro=
te:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a V6 series to add the driver of the touchscreen Cypress,
> > > > > TrueTouch Generation 5.
> > > > > Based on v4.18-rc3.
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch series has already been posted in several iterations:
> > > > >     - v1: Sent on 2017/05/29
> > > > >     - v2: Sent on 2017/08/18
> > > > >     - v3: Sent on 2017/09/27
> > > > >     - v4: Sent on 2017/12/01
> > > > >     - v5: Sent on 2017/12/20
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not have any comments the last 4 versions.
> > > > > And no reviews on my v5 during 6 months. Could I have any updates
> > > > > or feedback on my series to know why it is not merged (to be able=
 to
> > > > > correct what is wrong)?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I must have missed the v5, sorry about that.
> > > >
> > > > I probably asked this question before, but just to make sure - I se=
e
> > > > references to HID in the patch - the device is really not HID
> > > > compatible? Is there any hope it could be made work with i2c-hid +
> > > > hid-multitouch?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have checked and, for what I have seen, all the HID descriptor stuf=
f
> > > is HID compliant. We could definitely use i2c-hid and hid-multitouch
> > > (there is the "hid-cypress" driver that exists also).
> > >
> > > The only problem is that this touchscreen has two modes: a bootloader
> > > mode and an application mode (which is the one where we can send
> > > HID commands). After a power-on-reset, it is always in "bootloader"
> > > mode so we need to send some commands (called "bootloader commands") =
to
> > > switch to application mode.
> >
> > Is this a documented or observed behavior? In my practice devices (I am
> > talking in general, not about Cypress) that have proper configuration
> > loaded and that were brought up with appropriate power up sequence and
> > timings automatically switch to application mode. They only end up in
> > bootloader mode when proper power up sequence is not respected and they
> > are unhappy.
>
> I have checked and indeed, if everything is correctly performed, the
> bootloader has a timeout to switch to application mode.
> The datasheet says that this timeout can be configured and the "0" value
> means that the bootloader will never automatically switch to application
> unless a bootloader command is sent.
>
> In our case, you were right, after a timeout, the touchscreen is
> correctly switching to Application mode. Great news!
>
> >
> > > These commands are not HID-compliant as the
> > > datasheet indicates:
> > >
> > > "Bootloader commands are not HID-over-I2C compliant."
> >
> > Any chance you could share the datasheet?
>
> Sorry, it is not possible, the datasheet is under NDA :(
>
> >
> > >
> > > I think that if the touchscreen would start directly in "application"
> > > mode, we could directly use i2c-hid and hid-cypress drivers.
> > > Unfortunately, this is not the case.
> > >
> > > In bootloader mode, the ProductID is 0xc101 and in application mode, =
it
> > > is 0xc001 (already available in hid-ids.h:
> > > USB_DEVICE_ID_CYPRESS_TRUETOUCH but not handled)
> > >
> > > What would be the better approach here?
> > > Should I add a new product ID to detect the bootloader mode in
> > > hid-cypress driver and send non-HID commands to switch to
> > > "application" mode in this driver?
> > > Anyway, I guess that I will drop this cyttsp5 driver and update the
> > > existing one, right?
> >
> > So it still accessible through HID, even when in bootloader mode? OK,
> > then I guess there are 2 options:
> >
> > - if device is documented to always start in bootloader mode, you could
> >   have a small stub driver that switches it into application mode in it=
s
> >   probe() code. The "bootloader" device will disappear and
> >   "application" device will appear, and standard driver (hid-multitouch=
)
> >   will bind to it.
>
> Okay, I see. In our case, we do not have the timeout to 0 as after a
> moment, the application mode is automatically switched.
>
> >
> > - if device supposed to come up in application mode unless configuratio=
n
> >   is damaged: I'd recommend doing what we do on Chrome OS and have some
> >   userspace software that runs on boot (or whenever device is
> >   discovered) and check if it has the latest firmware/configuration, an=
d
> >   repair device if needed.
>
> I see.
>
> I tried to make the i2d-hid & hid-cypress working. This is not
> successful for the moment because I can not retrieve the correct
> bcdVersion. While debugging, I have noticed that the HID descriptors
> don't seem to be exactly the same:
>
> under i2c-hid.c:
>
> struct i2c_hid_desc {
>         __le16 wHIDDescLength;
>         __le16 bcdVersion;
>         __le16 wReportDescLength;
>         __le16 wReportDescRegister;
>         __le16 wInputRegister;
>         __le16 wMaxInputLength;
>         __le16 wOutputRegister;
>         __le16 wMaxOutputLength;
>         __le16 wCommandRegister;
>         __le16 wDataRegister;
>         __le16 wVendorID;
>         __le16 wProductID;
>         __le16 wVersionID;
>         __le32 reserved;
> } __packed;
>
> whereas in my driver, I have:
>
> struct cyttsp5_hid_desc {
>         __le16 hid_desc_len;
>         u8 packet_id;       <-- Different
>         u8 reserved_byte;   <-- Different
>         __le16 bcd_version;
>         __le16 report_desc_len;
>         __le16 report_desc_register;
>         __le16 input_register;
>         __le16 max_input_len;
>         __le16 output_register;
>         __le16 max_output_len;
>         __le16 command_register;
>         __le16 data_register;
>         __le16 vendor_id;
>         __le16 product_id;
>         __le16 version_id;
>         u8 reserved[4];
> } __packed;
>
> Have you already seen devices that are "HID compatible" with a different
> HID descriptor's content like this?

That seems like a violation of Microsoft I2C HID protocol:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/hardware/design/=
dn642101(v=3Dvs.85)
How do Cypress devices work in Windows? Might they have a compatible
firmware?

In any case, for all I2C HID things Benjamin (CCed) is your guy.

Thanks.

--=20
Dmitry