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From:   Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Date:   Thu, 16 Aug 2018 18:30:39 +0200
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To:     Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 09:32:48AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Sean Paul wrote:
>> > Since chromium.org is now enforcing DMARC, my mails are going to
>> > people's spam folders. While this development might be desirable
>> > for people I communicate with, it's undesirable for me :-)
>> >
>> > Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>
>> > Cc: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>
>> > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
>> > Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
>> > ---
>> >  MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
>> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>> > index 93f189f0d60d..5eaa1c91d4a4 100644
>> > --- a/MAINTAINERS
>> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>> > @@ -4662,7 +4662,7 @@ F:    include/linux/vga*
>> >  DRM DRIVERS AND MISC GPU PATCHES
>> >  M: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>
>> >  M: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
>> > -M: Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>
>> > +M: Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
>>
>> Glorious domain :-)
>>
>> Aside: ffwll.ch has been running with dkim since a while, seems to work
>> correctly. You just need non-strict dkim enforcement, which at least for
>> gapps is the default.
>>
>> But even then Linus' gmail inbox throws my mails away every once in a
>> while, so email clearly doesn't work.
>
> My (completely incorrect, i'm sure) understanding is that DKIM is fine, but
> DMARC is the problem.
>
> It seems Mailman was altering some (or all) of my messages which caused DMARC
> to fail. At the very least the "Prevent duplicate messages" setting in mailman
> strips users cc from the headers. So if any one of the recipients has this
> setting enabled, the headers are munged, DMARC fails, and emails go to spam.

Hm tbh I didn't know about DMARC yet. Sounds like it just tells the
recipient how your domain would like SPF/DKIM failures to be handled.
One of these (if configured correctly) should survive mailing lists. I
did crawl dri-devel a bit, and there's mails that passed through with
full dmarc enforcement. So it's not impossible.

But hey in practice it doesn't even work for gmail->gmail when the
moon howling is too bad :-)
-Daniel


>
>>
>> </rant>
>>
>> Acked-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
>
> Thanks, pushed to -misc-next-fixes
>
> Sean
>
>> >  W: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html
>> >  S: Maintained
>> >  T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
>> > --
>> > Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dri-devel mailing list
>> > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Vetter
>> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
>> http://blog.ffwll.ch
>
> --
> Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
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