Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261195AbTI3IJ0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:09:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261205AbTI3IJZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:09:25 -0400 Received: from law11-f60.law11.hotmail.com ([64.4.17.60]:60945 "EHLO hotmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261195AbTI3IJX (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:09:23 -0400 X-Originating-IP: [220.224.20.13] X-Originating-Email: [kartik_me@hotmail.com] From: "kartikey bhatt" To: diegocg@teleline.es Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Can't X be elemenated? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:39:22 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 08:09:22.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[28376100:01C3872A] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org your graphics card (hw) is resource that needs to be managed by OS. leaving it to 3rd party developers is an *adhoc* solution, *a stark immoral choice*. my friend gotta new AMD athlon with nvidia gforce 32mb shared memory, but he is on the mercy of X people to get full support for it. for now he has to do with generic i810 driver? any answer for that. my question is can't X be eleminated by providing support for graphics drivers and other routines at kernel level? >From: Diego Calleja Garc?a >To: "kartikey bhatt" >CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >Subject: Re: Can't X be elemenated? >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:11:01 +0200 > >El Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:14:56 +0530 "kartikey bhatt" >escribi?: > > > 1st. X is bloat. Though it's good for server environments. For desktop >pcs > > it's too heavy. On my machine (PIII500 with 128MB RAM) I have to choose >from > > either to run X or compile 2.6.0-test6. > > > > 2nd. It's process based client/server architecture is a bottleneck. It's >not > > as interactive as is supposed to be. > >You might want to discuss that with X people. It's been demonstrated that >the >client/server model is noy a bottleneck...in fact there're benchmarks which >show >X being almost as fast as the windows GDI... (using the shared memory >extension) > > > > > 3rd. Most important. I can't impress or convince my window(crash)(TM) >user > > friends, relatives (who saw X running on my pc) to use Linux. > >I can impress them quite well running the X server in a different machine >:) > > > > > 4th. I want to see desktop being ruled by Linux. > >It's already ruling my desktop 8) > >But you might want to talk with X developers. Linus it's just the kernel >maintainer. > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in >the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail now on your Mobile phone. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/mobilesms/ Click here. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/