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Violators will be prosecuted; (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256) Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:34:05 +0100 Received: from d06av23.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av23.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.105.59]) by b06cxnps3074.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id w7MFY3Rs44564672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:34:03 GMT Received: from d06av23.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF52A404D; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:34:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from d06av23.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEB4A405B; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:34:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from [9.152.224.111] (unknown [9.152.224.111]) by d06av23.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:34:02 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: pmorel@linux.ibm.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains To: Christian Borntraeger , Cornelia Huck , Halil Pasic Cc: Tony Krowiak , Tony Krowiak , linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com, bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com, pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com, alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com, fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com References: <1534196899-16987-1-git-send-email-akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1534196899-16987-13-git-send-email-akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20180820162317.08bd7d23.cohuck@redhat.com> <660de00a-c403-28c1-4df4-82a973ab3ad5@linux.ibm.com> <20180821172548.57a6c758.cohuck@redhat.com> <82a391ee-85b1-cdc7-0f9b-d37fd8ba8e47@linux.ibm.com> <20180822114250.59a250aa.cohuck@redhat.com> <8bc5f207-f913-825c-f9fc-0a2c7fd280aa@linux.ibm.com> From: Pierre Morel Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:34:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 18082215-0016-0000-0000-000001FA3E1E X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 18082215-0017-0000-0000-00003250944B Message-Id: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-08-22_08:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1808220156 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 22/08/2018 17:11, Christian Borntraeger wrote: > > > On 08/22/2018 01:03 PM, Pierre Morel wrote: >>> That's interesting. >>> >>>> IMHO this quote is quite a half-full half-empty cup one: >>>> * it mandates the set of usage domains is a subset of the set >>>> of the control domains, but >>>> * it speaks of independent controls, namely about the 'usage domain index' >>>> and the 'control domain index list' and makes the enforcement of the rule >>>> a job of the administrator (instead of codifying it in the controls). >>> I'm wondering if a configuration with a usage domain that is not also a >>> control domain is rejected outright? Anybody tried that? :) >> >> Yes, and no it is not. >> We can use a queue (usage domain) to a AP card for SHA-512 or RSA without >> having to define the queue as a control domain. > > Huh? My HMC allows to add a domain as > - control only domain > - control and usage domain. > > But I am not able to configure a usage-only domain for my LPAR. That seems to match > the current code, no? > Yes, it may not be configurable by the HMC but if we start a guest with no control domain it is not a problem to access the hardware through the usage domain. I tested this a long time ago, but tested again today to be sure on my LPAR. AFAIU adding a control only domain and a control and usage domain allows say: control and usage domain 1 control only domain 2 Allow to send a message to domain 2 using queue 1 Allow also to send a domain modifying message to domain 1 using queue 1 control domain are domain which are controlled It seems that the HMC enforce the LPARs to have access to their usage domain (AFAIU from Harald) -- Pierre Morel Linux/KVM/QEMU in Böblingen - Germany