Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:54:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:54:05 -0500 Received: from [204.244.205.25] ([204.244.205.25]:56142 "HELO post.gateone.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:53:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init From: Michael Peddemors To: Stephen Clouse Cc: Guest section DW , Rik van Riel , "Patrick O'Rourke" , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20010322142831.A929@owns.warpcore.org> In-Reply-To: <3AB9313C.1020909@missioncriticallinux.com> <20010322124727.A5115@win.tue.nl> <20010322142831.A929@owns.warpcore.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 17:31:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010323015358Z129164-406+3041@vger.kernel.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Here, Here.. killing qmail on a server who's sole task is running mail doesn't seem to make much sense either.. > > Clearly, Linux cannot be reliable if any process can be killed > > at any moment. I am not happy at all with my recent experiences. > > Really the whole oom_kill process seems bass-ackwards to me. I can't in my mind > logically justify annihilating large-VM processes that have been running for > days or weeks instead of just returning ENOMEM to a process that just started > up. > > We run Oracle on a development box here, and it's always the first to get the > axe (non-root process using 70-80 MB VM). Whenever someone's testing decides to > run away with memory, I usually spend the rest of the day getting intimate with > the backup files, since SIGKILLing random Oracle processes, as you might have > guessed, has a tendency to rape the entire database. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------------------------------------------------------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security WizardInternet Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com -------------------------------------------------------- (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/