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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n10-v6si23590941pfb.316.2018.09.04.09.06.58; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@infradead.org header.s=bombadil.20170209 header.b=NSCL4yCg; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727727AbeIDUbb (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:31:31 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:33748 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726015AbeIDUbb (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:31:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wamesnXEMkJQ7j+0Ah2I7TqKePqH+2af/Qpjxo0f79g=; b=NSCL4yCguGIkPrOQ3VRiNBaNb 7sO219YG+6yQkjFC+gQaznTQII3J7hRrTZIBzT2nAzAMiKlo1tXtpHKK/3RnI74WpxcNk8Wt0fMzG +ibWiZI2k+zdmFLF+ozWlunDr7JIyuuWFOCnM6uW/OlsPzs37QoTR9nKnipysoYT4XAUTxUcWGPMs KG8EiQpBa0VuNF+aXjUYNVIYdqe73nw0t8oijyiMwdXjxx3puu58WoWFInW5UCtv8AauHhzjawC/x +pniaHjaHqtznKuf04r5ldX0+oG6eEgi0tvj77lyymG3VKTBmU3kyeVqrlul4Uz48ptA2yzWr0XR/ 2c6a/w0jQ==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1fxDpn-0003VQ-HS; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:05:43 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9838A202AFE0D; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:05:41 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Stephane Eranian Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Jiri Olsa , Jiri Olsa , LKML , Namhyung Kim Subject: Re: [RFC] perf tool improvement requests Message-ID: <20180904160541.GK24124@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20180904071049.GY24124@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180904134218.GA5364@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 08:50:07AM -0700, Stephane Eranian wrote: > > > When we get an exact IP (using PEBS) and were sampling a data related > > > event (say L1 misses), we can get the data type from the instruction > > > itself; that is, through DWARF. We _know_ what type (structure::member) > > > is read/written to. > > > I have been asking this from the compiler people for a long time! > I don't think it is there. I'd like each load/store to be annotated > with a data type + offset > within the type. It would allow data type profiling. This would not be > bulletproof though > because of the accessor function problem: > void incr(int *v) { (*v)++; } > struct foo { int a, int b } bar; > incr(&bar.a); Cute, yes. Also, array accesses are tricky. But I think even with those caveats it would be _very_ useful. > There are concern with the volume of data that this > would generate. But my argument > is that this is just debug binaries, does not make the stripped binary > any bigger. Right; the alternative is that we build an asm interpreter and follow the data types throughout the function, because DWARF can tell us about the types at a number of places, like function call arguments etc.. That is, of course, a terrible lot of work :/