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To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:50:25AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> > Mar 23 11:48:49 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2019 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:49 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1407 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:50 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1495 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:50 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2800 (rpm).
> > 
> > [yes, that was rpm growing too large, taking a few emacs sessions]
> > [2.4.2]
> 
> Let me get this straight you don't have enough swap for your workload?
> And you don't have per process limits on root by default?
> 
> So you are complaining about the OOM killer?  

I should not react - your questions are phrased rhetorically.

But yes, I am complaining because Linux by default is unreliable.
I strongly prefer a system that is reliable by default,
and I'll leave it to others to run it in an unreliable mode.

Andries
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