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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:57:20 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@f-secure.com>
To: Guest section DW <dwguest@win.tue.nl>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Guest section DW wrote:
> Presently however, a flawless program can be killed.
> That is what makes Linux unreliable.

Your advocation is "save the application, crash the OS!". But you can't
be blamed because everybody's first reaction is this :) But if you start
to think you get the conclusion that process killing can't be avoided if
you want the system keep running. But I agree Linux lacks some important
things [see my other email] that could make the situation easily and
inexpensively controllable.

BTW, your app isn't flawless because it doesn't consider Linux memory
management is [quasi-]overcommit-only at present ;) [or you used other
apps as well, e.g. login, ps, cron is enough to kill your app when it
stopped at OOM time].

	Szaka

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