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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 14-v6si16197141pgc.179.2018.09.17.18.37.19; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=temperror (no key for signature) header.i=@snajpa.net header.s=mail header.b=w8NhzWG8; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726987AbeIRHHS (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 03:07:18 -0400 Received: from mail.snajpa.net ([185.8.165.152]:37656 "EHLO mail.snajpa.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725807AbeIRHHR (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 03:07:17 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 395 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 03:07:16 EDT Received: from authenticated-user (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.snajpa.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DCA7236026; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:30:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=snajpa.net; s=mail; t=1537234238; bh=qhRK4PSkV3dLLEFV3EQ7S3DDwtkwyupnZJ+KIYKiGsE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=w8NhzWG82cIG4Z6U0M9F39ADC2M/mhLc7X0qpB5ZlO2TwWLGEzWsdi6swkqPcNbJJ j9QA54ucIxDlmfprnuL75yHscdXI5T3HnJ8+vsMqAeEl4TmdbYg4I268V6BJj6luTK xT6b43UrP1LtkFZlOeLbYUB1D0ssOli3nHAkxZrM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 03:30:38 +0200 From: Pavel Snajdr To: michaeljpwoods@gmail.com Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note In-Reply-To: <93424bb0-180e-71ff-f0d6-602caa2d5883@gmail.com> References: <93424bb0-180e-71ff-f0d6-602caa2d5883@gmail.com> Message-ID: <260205ec45d097fb037f71ae42e7b69e@snajpa.net> X-Sender: snajpa@snajpa.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2018-09-17 23:09, Michael Woods wrote: > > The Code of Conflict was perfectly fine. Whomever convinced you to add > the Code of Conduct was convincing you to give control over to a > social justice initiative that has no interest in the kernel's core > function or reason for existence. > Hi Michael, and how about if we viewed the new Code of Conduct as about the same thing as BitKeeper was for the development process? It was not perfect, but wass *something* for a start. And I believe that Linus will probably come back with a Git of CoC, or something in that fasion. I've been always looking up to the guys leading major community projects and how they go about things - and I think, that most of the bad fall-out in them is caused by insanely high expectations - firstly from the leader themselves, and secondly from others as well. /snajpa P.S.: this is my first "contribution" to LKML, I hope to start sending up some of my very prototype work soon for discussion, regarding the Cgroup subsystem ID allocation & limits - and subsequently, start a discussion about getting Linux to do better OS-level containers (ie. those, which have a "look&feel of a real VM" from the admin's perspective). We started our organization (vpsFree.org) on top of OpenVZ patch set and are now working to get vanilla up to the task of replacing the venerable 2.6.32-based OpenVZ 6 Linux-like thing. The new Code of Conduct is a guarantee for us, that we won't be laughed out of the room and that our members won't be demotivated to contribute upstream - if we can all agree to be nice on each other; yet we still need you guys to tell us, when we're trying stupid things or going about things the wrong way, in some way that we will notice & can learn from. If I understand the context correctly, the previous "regime" could be the culprit, at least to some extent, why still don't have the VM look&feel-having containers with vanilla. So I'm just really trying to say, that I'm really excited about the signal this change has sent.